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Greta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship

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  • T [email protected]

    She helped a few, and that is more than anyone could say about you.

    I donate to unicef so I guess I did the same as her without the free trips and celebrity status, where is my Nobel?

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    You are lying about donating to unicef

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      Y'all are delusional trying to make 'kidnapping" a thing 🤣

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      They was jailed for navigating on internal water. It is illegal therefore it's abduction

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      • I [email protected]

        It's a blockade for a war zone. Standard practice for centuries, unless they just shoot you which was the previous option for most of humanity.

        Now let's get pedantic and have someone screech that Israel doesn't recognize Palestine and it's not a war so no blockade 🙄

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        The blockade is illegal and israel didn't do it job to allow enough food and aid to enter which is an obligation. They are even shooting people seeking aid

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          Yeah it's real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child.
          She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy.

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          She was kidnapped then released while other are still in jail for doing nothing illegal

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          • scrambledeggs@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

            I honestly didn't expect her to survive this one. She made it publicly known what she was doing so Israel couldn't say it was a normal bombing of transport ships. But I figured they would use her as an example and destroy the ship.

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            One person on board with her is a European Union member of parliament from France. That provides a lot more protection than Greta's reputation can.

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            • B [email protected]

              Israel does not feel a need to hide their crimes because they believe any action they take is righteous because they are doing it and any action their enemies take is evil because they are doing it

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              Becuase thy know the whole world won't do anything

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              • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                The flotilla was told several times to turn around or be detained. They decided to not turn around and continued on their intended course to breach the naval blockade.

                According to international maritime law Israel can intercept and detain before they enter.

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                No they can't especially when the blockade is illegal

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                • N [email protected]

                  Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?

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                  Celebrities don't get that kind of treatment.

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                  • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                    Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.

                    Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.

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                    Don't you mean the illegal channel controlled by thr occupying force

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                    • somethingburger@jlai.luS [email protected]

                      The others refused to be sent back to France, as they would have to agree to be permanently banned from Israel.

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                      They refuse to sign a document saying that they enteres israel legally which make it look like israel kidnapping was legal and legitimate

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                      • L [email protected]

                        To be fair, they specified “western world”. If you look at the map of countries that recognize Palestine, it’s pretty glaring that a good chunk of Europe, Canada/US, and Australia/NZ don’t officially recognize it.

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                        Why does it even matter if it's the west or other countries. Foes western countries have more legitimacy?

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                        • H [email protected]

                          Uncommonly fast for Israel.

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                          They did it for PR. The other who refused to sign paper that will make them look like they entered israel legally are still abducted in jail

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                          • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                            Consider this: You might be misinformed about the whole situation.

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                            that would require thinking, how dare you insult his beliefs

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                            • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                              Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.

                              Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.

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                              International law doesn't put up any of those restrictions. As an illegal occupying force Israel is not allowed to dictate what the "proper" channels are.

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                              • N [email protected]

                                One person on board with her is a European Union member of parliament from France. That provides a lot more protection than Greta's reputation can.

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                                Israel shot at a group of European diplomats two weeks ago and Europe did not care.

                                Greta has way more clout than the European Parliament.

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  It's actually gotten worse. The management of CNN changed recentlyish and has been pushing CNN more to the right. I think it was to increase viewership, but ultimately just means the quality (not that it was very high to begin with) has dropped.

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                                  Watching their recent coverage of LA and NY I was kinda astounded by the slant on it.

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                                  • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                    Yes, that’s how blockades work. https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/8684/43_101YaleLJ893_1991_1992_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y

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                                    Is there something specific in there you wanted to reference?

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      Israel shot at a group of European diplomats two weeks ago and Europe did not care.

                                      Greta has way more clout than the European Parliament.

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                                      I listen to the news almost every day and missed that. I guess it shows how bad things are that it didn't make the news...

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                                      • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                                        Can you please elaborate on that connection from your perspective. I imagine there must be some context I am overlooking.

                                        Willful ignorance of atrocities does not have any chance of stopping or slowing them.
                                        Source: Russian Gulags, North Korea, US native women murders/trafficking, Auschwitz.

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                                        All the shouting and "notoriety" just makes it worse. Turns it into a spectacle instead of actually fixing anything. Sometimes, less outside noise is exactly what's needed for people to sort their own mess out. Wayne Dyer said, "Conflict cannot survive without your participation."

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                                          She was kidnapped then released while other are still in jail for doing nothing illegal

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                                          Good. They're interfering in things they hardly understand.

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