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Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

    Hamas is antisemitic and has publicly bragged about it

    Evil brings evil

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    This is false. Hamas since its founding has repeatedly stated they only fight against Israel because of resistance to settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing and not because of their religion.

    You can hear the founder of Hamas say so here: https://youtu.be/FCxRZrBYLVg

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      Well, maybe in the original meaning of the word. Most Palestinians do speak a Semitic language. The word usually now mean anti-jewish though.

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      These days it seems to mean anti what ever views Israel wants you to have

      It has been so watered down it isn't even funny

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        The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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        How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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          How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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          #145

          The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.

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          • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

            Sure, but Israel depends on hamas to justify their genocide.
            They have funded them.

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            Witb justification or not israel will always oppress palestinians because it believe all rhe land is jewish.

            Israel didn't fund hamas, qatar did. Unlike hamas, israel collect palestinian taxes in west bank and directly fund them with part of it

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              “It’s not really the religion…”

              Explains how it is, in fact, religion.

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              #147

              Imperialism, supermasism and ressource controls.

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                The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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                The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani

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                  The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.

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                  “Accepting it as good or being ostracised”

                  This is just wrong.

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                    The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani

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                    Yeah, people are shitty, religion doesn’t fix that.

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                      Yeah, people are shitty, religion doesn’t fix that.

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                      If you want to critisize religion go for it, create posts about it. Don't come here making it look like the conflict is all about religion. It's about one state occupying another. Ben gurion the first prime minister was secular he still killed and oppressed palestinians. Most zionists use the argument of ancestral right not religious right. Just because palestinians are generally religious don't mean you can't support the right for freedom

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                        His very existence is anti-Semitic. Hope he gets gaddafied eventually.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          By that logic there is even more reason for there to be a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People (for those who don't know, they're commonly called Gypsies).

                          By the way, the Nazis targetted them as much as they targetted the Jewish People, yet we almost never hear about the genocide of Roma People in the Holocaust.

                          Two weights two measures, same as always: the Jewish People just went from the "untermenschen" column to the "ubermeschen" one whilst other ethnic groups did not.

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                          a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People

                          According to wikipedia you have several choices: "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia".

                          Furthermore there are terms "porajmos (also porrajmos or pharrajimos—literally, "devouring" or "destruction" in some dialects of the Romani language)... Balkan Romani activists prefer to use the term samudaripen ("mass killing")" to describe the holocaust on Romani people.

                          It's difficult to over emphasize how willfully ignorant the above commenter is. They don't care about jews or roma. This is an example of real anti semitism, which continues to pervade, and is the reason why Israel and its oligarchs can get away with mislabeling legitimate activity as such. Because everyone knows there are people like this running around who are seeking to ride the wave of empathy for the palestinians (who they also don't care about) to stir up anti-jew attitudes.

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                          • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                            a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People

                            According to wikipedia you have several choices: "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia".

                            Furthermore there are terms "porajmos (also porrajmos or pharrajimos—literally, "devouring" or "destruction" in some dialects of the Romani language)... Balkan Romani activists prefer to use the term samudaripen ("mass killing")" to describe the holocaust on Romani people.

                            It's difficult to over emphasize how willfully ignorant the above commenter is. They don't care about jews or roma. This is an example of real anti semitism, which continues to pervade, and is the reason why Israel and its oligarchs can get away with mislabeling legitimate activity as such. Because everyone knows there are people like this running around who are seeking to ride the wave of empathy for the palestinians (who they also don't care about) to stir up anti-jew attitudes.

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                            All clearly as frequently used as "anti-semitism" /s

                            And yeah, I don't care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they're not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

                            It's Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don't "are against those races" - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

                            For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven't actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

                            It's pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are.

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                              ... which is actually anti-semitic because Gazans are Semites too

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                              sheesh, what was the carnage in this comment chain? the OP was banned and aaron edited their post.

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                              • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                                Maybe don't commit hate crimes?

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                                Ask yourself, really what the fuck do hate crimes and vocabulary have to do with each other? I see your point, it's just not really a point.

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                                • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                                  the existence of a specific term is due to pervasive and long standing existence of antisemitism in Europe.

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                                  I understand the literal reason, I just don't think it's a particularly good one.

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                                    Witb justification or not israel will always oppress palestinians because it believe all rhe land is jewish.

                                    Israel didn't fund hamas, qatar did. Unlike hamas, israel collect palestinian taxes in west bank and directly fund them with part of it

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                                    They have sent money to hamas, and encoraged qatar's payments.

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                                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                                      They have sent money to hamas, and encoraged qatar's payments.

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                                      Again. Nothing enter palestine without israel approval. The palestinian autority get directly paid by israel. The palestinian autority is collaborating with israel and protect israel security while israel is funding illegal settlers , protect them when they attack, demolish palestinians homes. Torture, rape and kill palestinians.

                                      Answer this question. If all armed group get destroyed do you think israel will stop occupation?

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                                        Again. Nothing enter palestine without israel approval. The palestinian autority get directly paid by israel. The palestinian autority is collaborating with israel and protect israel security while israel is funding illegal settlers , protect them when they attack, demolish palestinians homes. Torture, rape and kill palestinians.

                                        Answer this question. If all armed group get destroyed do you think israel will stop occupation?

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                                        No, I don't. But its much easier for them to bomb palestine with the threat of hamas.

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                                        • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                                          No, I don't. But its much easier for them to bomb palestine with the threat of hamas.

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                                          The level of easiness is the same . Arab countries leader, weatern leaders especially the usa has unconditional support for israel. On the ground sympathy with palestinians is useless. The occupier will always kill ton of civilians when the oppressed retaliate. Are you telling me that palestinians has no right to armed resistance and accept to be occupies forever?

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