If you have to pick only one Desktop Environment and use it till your computer breaks, what would you choose?
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I know Gnome is the default on popular distros: Fedora, Ubuntu, Rhel, Pop OS (it's Cosmic Desktop yes but it is still based on Gnome)...etc. But Gnome just doesnt work for me. I would pick XFCE - stable and no BS.
Before Manjaro and their cetificate shenanigan, I used to use their XFCE version. At the time, it was marketed as the "Flagship Manjaro version". I went 4 years without any problems and I did tinker a lot, just couldnt get their XFCE to break.
After a tough Arch or Gentoo installs, I just want to put XFCE on and call it a day.
What about you guys?
I currently use GNOME and would continue to but if it were a low spec machine, probably icewm or jwm.
y'all sure like KDE though
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Much like Windows.
Except people are forced to use windows. Not so with gnome
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Except people are forced to use windows. Not so with gnome
If you say so
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Isn’t sway based on i3? i3 is a WM not a DE. But as sway is not X11, I’m not sure if it’s just a WM
Sway still primarily counts as a WM + Compositor, but considering it has keymaps, autostart, and libinput config mechanisms embedded in it, I would say it borders a desktop environment.
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SteamOS is the arch Linux off shoot they made specifically for the steam deck. It's great for integrated graphics gaming.
had no idea you could use it on not a deck!
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That's not too hard a question for me, I've been using the same DE for years: KDE
Has KDE improved since 2010-ish? I gave up KDE because gnome was just a better DE at the time. Gnome sucks now, but I found i3/sway. Haven’t given KDE a second chance yet
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For those of us that expect room to breathe and make our machine work for us rather than the other way around, we feel like Gnome takes a lot of liberties away for the sake of "simplicity." There is so much missing from Gnome that is present in most other DEs and even custom WM setups.
The primary contributors who work under The Gnome Foundation also come off as controlling and arrogant in a lot of cases, and refuse to take community feedback to heart, whereas KDE has literal summits to get user feedback on major core features we want to see which then later get added to their backlogs and sprints as Epics. Gnome acts a lot like Apple in the sense that they're very much "we know what's best for you better than you do."
Now, the singular area I can give Gnome true props in is their accessibility functionality, but that's primarily it. KDE's accessibility is fairly behind by about a decade in comparison.
That's just my take, take it as you will.
There is so much missing from Gnome that is present in most other DEs and even custom WM setups.
There are also plenty of features that gnome has that kde and other desktops and wms don't have. It's all about tradeoffs and what's acceptable or necessary for you.
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I know Gnome is the default on popular distros: Fedora, Ubuntu, Rhel, Pop OS (it's Cosmic Desktop yes but it is still based on Gnome)...etc. But Gnome just doesnt work for me. I would pick XFCE - stable and no BS.
Before Manjaro and their cetificate shenanigan, I used to use their XFCE version. At the time, it was marketed as the "Flagship Manjaro version". I went 4 years without any problems and I did tinker a lot, just couldnt get their XFCE to break.
After a tough Arch or Gentoo installs, I just want to put XFCE on and call it a day.
What about you guys?
Cosmic is not based on gnome
Cosmic has devs that give a shit about their users.
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I thought KDE was the popular choice to be honest. I feel like all the toolp newish OS are using KDE and the top old OS are using Gnome.
The gnome folks are in too deep with popular environments. Like a tick.
(Not The Tick, though, he's swell)
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There is nothing better than Xfce, if you dont like the desktop, at least Xfce allows you to customize.
KDE seems interesting, but the last time i tried it, 10 years ago more or less, it was a bit buggy.I remember when kde looked like xfce and yeah back then it was buggy. Today it looks like a slightly jank windows 7 but with the giant buttons and curved corners that characterize 2015 software.
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Always wanted to like gnome but never could, and xfce is fine but I much prefer KDE, it is verry likely that I'll actually keep it till my pc breaks.
That's the beauty of gnome: they don't give a single fuck if you like it. You can return the favor.
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I currently use GNOME and would continue to but if it were a low spec machine, probably icewm or jwm.
y'all sure like KDE though
Hey bud it's fine some people are capable of multitasking and some people are content with gnome.
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Hey bud it's fine some people are capable of multitasking and some people are content with gnome.
some of us just weren't meant for greatness, i guess.
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I know Gnome is the default on popular distros: Fedora, Ubuntu, Rhel, Pop OS (it's Cosmic Desktop yes but it is still based on Gnome)...etc. But Gnome just doesnt work for me. I would pick XFCE - stable and no BS.
Before Manjaro and their cetificate shenanigan, I used to use their XFCE version. At the time, it was marketed as the "Flagship Manjaro version". I went 4 years without any problems and I did tinker a lot, just couldnt get their XFCE to break.
After a tough Arch or Gentoo installs, I just want to put XFCE on and call it a day.
What about you guys?
KDE the customization is off the charts
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some of us just weren't meant for greatness, i guess.
Gnome user: accepts defaults and never having the ability to change a setting
Gnome user: "consistency is great when you don't have opinions of your own!"
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XFCE, using it for over 10 years, not planning to change it unless the DE changes radically.
Also an old fart, also love XFCE
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I know Gnome is the default on popular distros: Fedora, Ubuntu, Rhel, Pop OS (it's Cosmic Desktop yes but it is still based on Gnome)...etc. But Gnome just doesnt work for me. I would pick XFCE - stable and no BS.
Before Manjaro and their cetificate shenanigan, I used to use their XFCE version. At the time, it was marketed as the "Flagship Manjaro version". I went 4 years without any problems and I did tinker a lot, just couldnt get their XFCE to break.
After a tough Arch or Gentoo installs, I just want to put XFCE on and call it a day.
What about you guys?
XFCE would be my choice too
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I know Gnome is the default on popular distros: Fedora, Ubuntu, Rhel, Pop OS (it's Cosmic Desktop yes but it is still based on Gnome)...etc. But Gnome just doesnt work for me. I would pick XFCE - stable and no BS.
Before Manjaro and their cetificate shenanigan, I used to use their XFCE version. At the time, it was marketed as the "Flagship Manjaro version". I went 4 years without any problems and I did tinker a lot, just couldnt get their XFCE to break.
After a tough Arch or Gentoo installs, I just want to put XFCE on and call it a day.
What about you guys?
I'm a cog in the machine and use KDE, but xfce is awesome, I would use xfce if I couldn't use KDE.
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openSUSE Tumbleweed eliminates support for x11
Wait, what?
At some point, probably after Fedora stops supporting x11, openSUSE plans to follow suit, and it will no longer be available in the repos. There's no firm date for when this will occur, though. I read about it on the official forum.
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Gnome user: accepts defaults and never having the ability to change a setting
Gnome user: "consistency is great when you don't have opinions of your own!"
life is pain