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    The hilarious thing is, according to Valve, MC won't even communicate directly with them.

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      If anybody is bored:

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        They could easily accept crypto. The problem is paying devs and staff. You have to pay them with dollars or their native currency.

        If crypto was mass adopted, this is the ultimate answer and would put them out of business anyways.

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        Stablecoins already solve that. Not very trustworthy because they could in theory do the same but as a temporary solution should work.

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          They could easily accept crypto. The problem is paying devs and staff. You have to pay them with dollars or their native currency.

          If crypto was mass adopted, this is the ultimate answer and would put them out of business anyways.

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          They could easily accept crypto.

          No, they could not, not easily.

          The problem is paying devs and staff. You have to pay them with dollars or their native currency.

          ... Yes. These are... the main reasons why this is not easy.

          You're basically either running your own FOREX exhange, which is costly, complicated, expensive and intensive...

          Or you are holding a significant chunk of your operating budget in... one, many, all cryptos? Which is extremely financially risky...

          Or, you're paying people directly in crypto, which ironically, probably a vast majority of people and entities that publish on Steam would quit the platform if that was mandated... kinda like how MC+Visa making a unilateral decision forced Steam to ban a bunch of games.

          ...

          You're doing magical thinking.

          Stop that.

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            Stablecoins already solve that. Not very trustworthy because they could in theory do the same but as a temporary solution should work.

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            Quick question, which stablecoins have actually been stable for 5 years?

            10?

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              Could they accept crypto? I can pay for my shady IPTV service with it, so why not games too? There's gotta be a way around this.

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              Wouldn't solve the problem.

              If Steam republished all its now censored games, and magically developed and implemented a world class crypto payment system overnight...

              Then Steam is still in breach of MC/Visas terms, and MC and Visa drop them, and now everyone has no choice other than to use GabeBucks or w/e to purchase Steam games with.

              Also, Valve now pays employees and game publishers in GabeBucks.

              Which would cause a fuck ton of games to leave Steam.

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                Could they accept crypto? I can pay for my shady IPTV service with it, so why not games too? There's gotta be a way around this.

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                Crypto is volatile, any volatile currency is not a good currency to be used, as most people will either hoard it or trade it. Alternatively people can use steam wallet.

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                  Quick question, which stablecoins have actually been stable for 5 years?

                  10?

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                  Yeah dude convert that shit as soon as you get it, don’t hold it. I’m not a fan but for receiving salary or processing payments in USD it does the job

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                    Yeah dude convert that shit as soon as you get it, don’t hold it. I’m not a fan but for receiving salary or processing payments in USD it does the job

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                    See my point here is:

                    Stablecoins are not actually meaningfully stable, they are not a realistic solution.

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                      See my point here is:

                      Stablecoins are not actually meaningfully stable, they are not a realistic solution.

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                      Yeah they all have depegged at some point I guess and Tether offloads the risk of the shitty Chinese bonds or whatever they’re investing in on you as a token holder.

                      Circle is SEC regulated which makes USDC a bit more trustworthy but if we have learnt anything from the banking crisis then that this is no guarantee. Plus they depegged to like 0.87 once I think.

                      My biggest issue with stables is actually that they all have asset freezing mechanisms built into their smart contracts which goes completely against the idea of decentralization. Not to mention that they’re a privacy nightmare as well.

                      I totally agree with you that they’re not a long term solution but they can be useful if you just use them to send / receive money vs actually keeping them in your wallet. In a perfect world we’d be all using Monero at Solana speed & cost.

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                        Crypto is volatile, any volatile currency is not a good currency to be used, as most people will either hoard it or trade it. Alternatively people can use steam wallet.

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                        DAI is pegged to the US dollar

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                          Quick question, which stablecoins have actually been stable for 5 years?

                          10?

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                            Wouldn't solve the problem.

                            If Steam republished all its now censored games, and magically developed and implemented a world class crypto payment system overnight...

                            Then Steam is still in breach of MC/Visas terms, and MC and Visa drop them, and now everyone has no choice other than to use GabeBucks or w/e to purchase Steam games with.

                            Also, Valve now pays employees and game publishers in GabeBucks.

                            Which would cause a fuck ton of games to leave Steam.

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                            Gabebucks

                            They sell them at gamestop and best buy.

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                              Ok, so we've got a single stable coin that's been fairly stable for 5 years, good start.

                              Now, how do I know which ones that were around 5 years ago....would be this stable, 5 years back in time?

                              How do I know this one will be stable for another 5 years?

                              Is there... some kind of objective analysis I can do here, of all stablecoins, to at least have an idea of this, or am I throwing darts while blindfolded?

                              Businesses tend to like certainty and predictability when it comes to the fundamentals of their operations.

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                                Yeah they all have depegged at some point I guess and Tether offloads the risk of the shitty Chinese bonds or whatever they’re investing in on you as a token holder.

                                Circle is SEC regulated which makes USDC a bit more trustworthy but if we have learnt anything from the banking crisis then that this is no guarantee. Plus they depegged to like 0.87 once I think.

                                My biggest issue with stables is actually that they all have asset freezing mechanisms built into their smart contracts which goes completely against the idea of decentralization. Not to mention that they’re a privacy nightmare as well.

                                I totally agree with you that they’re not a long term solution but they can be useful if you just use them to send / receive money vs actually keeping them in your wallet. In a perfect world we’d be all using Monero at Solana speed & cost.

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                                I am not as well versed on Solana, but yeah, as best I can tell, and I've been following crypto since Satoshi's paper dropped, since before Mt Gox became a trading house...

                                Monero is the only crypto that is really even close to kind of being the bare minimum starting point that Satoshi wanted Bitcoin to be.

                                And... we still don't have any kind of broad, tangible uses case for any crypto... other than scams, gray/black market stuff, money laundering, extremely privacy focused services, and extremely speculative investing.

                                Crypto is basically a problematic solution, still searching for an actual problem it can actually solve better than what has come before.

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                                  Ok, so we've got a single stable coin that's been fairly stable for 5 years, good start.

                                  Now, how do I know which ones that were around 5 years ago....would be this stable, 5 years back in time?

                                  How do I know this one will be stable for another 5 years?

                                  Is there... some kind of objective analysis I can do here, of all stablecoins, to at least have an idea of this, or am I throwing darts while blindfolded?

                                  Businesses tend to like certainty and predictability when it comes to the fundamentals of their operations.

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                                  Yes, by which ones are peer to peer and which ones are centralized. That's also why there doesn't need to be a bunch of them.

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                                    Yes, by which ones are peer to peer and which ones are centralized. That's also why there doesn't need to be a bunch of them.

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                                    Cool, how do I determine that?

                                    Is there some kind of... universal metric, a p2p to centralized scale, that is accurate, transparent, and stays basically the same... for a deacde?

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                                      Cool, how do I determine that?

                                      Is there some kind of... universal metric, a p2p to centralized scale, that is accurate, transparent, and stays basically the same... for a deacde?

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                                      Unfortunately not, it's like picking the right Unix-like OS in 2003.

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                                        The fact I can hear their exact voices saying this says something.

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                                          Could they accept crypto? I can pay for my shady IPTV service with it, so why not games too? There's gotta be a way around this.

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                                          10 or so years ago, Steam accepted payments in Bitcoin, for some reason they stopped, so they certinaly can do that but chose not to.

                                          Also, 99% of people would not use it so wouldn't change much.

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