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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • S [email protected]

    Why a new engine, Firefox is open source?!

    Fork Firefox.

    But good luck funding a team to keep up with commercial companies’ pace. It needs funding.

    If Mozilla made a way to donate in a way that I KNEW it would go towards the maintenance of the browser, and not another crappy thing they’re trying to be profitable, I’d donate in a second. I spend about £30/month on OSS donations and I’d happily add £5/month to Mozilla if I trusted them not to misspend it.

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    But good luck funding a team to keep up with commercial companies’ pace.

    You answered the question yourself. The worry is that without a hard fork that is fully maintained we'll continue to have a dependence on Mozilla. It doesn't need to be a new engine, but it does need to be an independent one.

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      Right, you don't need extensions, because you don't need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.

      I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.

      A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.

      BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.

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      For flash I think you're describing Ruffle

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      • hexarei@programming.devH [email protected]

        For flash I think you're describing Ruffle

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        No, Ruffle is an alternative interpreter. I mean an alternative, FOSS, technology.

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          brave is built on chromium and it also has crypto stuff, so people here hate it

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          You can easily hide crypto stuff (which I do) and Chromium is great, just not Google Chrome, but the actual Chromium.

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            You can easily hide crypto stuff (which I do) and Chromium is great, just not Google Chrome, but the actual Chromium.

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            the problem with chromium is that because 98% of people use it, google gets to decide how the internet works basically

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            • O [email protected]

              It's a good Chromium based Windows native browser that has integration with your Entra ID account so all your bookmarks / history is automatically synced and users have seamless experience when switching devices. No longer seeing tickets like ″My bookmarks are gone after I reinstalled my PC″ is enough to consider Edge as your company main browser. And the fact that it is part of OS, you do not need to worry about install and patching.

              I prefer Firefox, but from Chromium browsers Edge is really good, you cannot expect companies to suggest something like Vivaldi.

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              Exactly that

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                Intune can manage Firefox add-ons btw, no need to use any extra systems.

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                Of course, but extra work is required for third party browsers vs just using windows built in browser designed to be managed using entraID / intune.

                Companies don’t like to pay extra.

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                  Of course, but extra work is required for third party browsers vs just using windows built in browser designed to be managed using entraID / intune.

                  Companies don’t like to pay extra.

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                  It's no different than controlling add-ons via GPO like we did in the old days of on-prem. No extra cost associated.

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                    It's no different than controlling add-ons via GPO like we did in the old days of on-prem. No extra cost associated.

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                    Tell that to oir IT partner that we outsourced our IT to…

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                      Tell that to oir IT partner that we outsourced our IT to…

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                      Your outsourced IT provider charges for simple configuration changes? That's a yikes from me. I worked in MSPs for years and those sort of changes were always covered in the standard contract.

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                        the problem with chromium is that because 98% of people use it, google gets to decide how the internet works basically

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                        I get that, but alternatives suck. Firefox doesn't even support all of the extensions I need.

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                          Your outsourced IT provider charges for simple configuration changes? That's a yikes from me. I worked in MSPs for years and those sort of changes were always covered in the standard contract.

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                          You got me there 🤭I don’t see in exact contract with the provider, I only worked with them on some projects (like enterprise wifi via TLS)
                          But the one in charge of decision making depending IT is fan of the MS ecosystem.
                          Personally I work with friends to offer workplace in the cloud in the future, like having a complete OS within a browser tab.

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                            I use Firefox for most things, but Google Meet maxes out all my CPUs if I use Firefox. Any kind of screen sharing kills it. Suggestions on how I can get video encoding working greatly appreciated... Intel Xe graphics.

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                            Using Vivaldi as a second browser, after Firefox.

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