The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
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I'm having a good time on a laptop with no fancy graphics card and have no desire to buy one.
I also do not look for super high graphical fidelity, play mostly indies instead of AAA, and am like 5 years behind the industry, mostly buying old gems on sale, so my tastes probably enable this strategy as much as anything else.
I've been using minipcs with integrated graphics ( and one with a laptop class GPU) instead of desktops for around the house and see no reason to stop.
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Modern high end iGPUs (e.g. AMD Strix Halo) are going to start replacing dGPUs in the entry and mid-range segments.
I'll be honest, I have never paid attention to GPUs and I don't understand what your comment is trying to say or (this feels selfish to say) how it applies to me and my comment. Is this intended to mostly be a reply to me, or something to help others reading the thread?
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Funny thing about AMD is the MI300X is supposedly not selling well. Other than the Framework desktop, they are desperate to stay as uncompetitive in the AI space as they possibly can.
Wasn’t the Intel B580 a good launch, though? It seems to have gotten rave reviews, and it’s in stock, yet has exited the hype cycle.
Intel b580 still showing out of stock everywhere I normally look.
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I'll be honest, I have never paid attention to GPUs and I don't understand what your comment is trying to say or (this feels selfish to say) how it applies to me and my comment. Is this intended to mostly be a reply to me, or something to help others reading the thread?
Laptops (and desktops) with no GPUs will become increasingly viable not just for older games. This was a general comment.
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The 9070's on eBay are getting cheaper and cheaper the further we get from the launch. I think scalpers underestimated AMD's stock and they are slowly discovering that.
Immediately after the launch the XT seemed to be starting at $1,200. Now they are down to $800. The non-xt is down to $650.
Depends on how much stock AMD can provide in the coming weeks and months, but I'm still thinking I'll be able to get one at MSRP this year.
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It's pretty okay if you're like me, i.e. have no needs above full hd res and can either take or leave rtx
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Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs... The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.
Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It's all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks "slap an LLM everywhere". Just such horseshit
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Been that way for years. There was a brief respite when people were switching to ASIC bitcoin mining and away from GPU intensive mining and you could actually get a GPU for a fair price, retail, non-scalper price gouging.
Now it’s right back to basically unaffordable for a name brand GPU. Literally more than a mortgage payment.
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My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I'll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU
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I got tired of the whole GPU, PC building thing. It's something that everybody should do once in their life if only to learn how computers are put together. However, at a certain point, I just want come home, sit down and play games without having to fiddle around with drivers, so I bought a console.
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My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I'll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU
About a year since I upgraded from my RX580 and I only did it because I got an amazingly stupid deal on a RX7600 ($175 about 3 months after launch). Otherwise, the card is fine and is, in fact, still being used on my cousin's PC.
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IDK. I see plenty of RTX 3060's and 4060's around for relatively cheap, but I didn't follow the evolution of PC components in years, and my GTX 1060 still works, lol.
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Been that way for years. There was a brief respite when people were switching to ASIC bitcoin mining and away from GPU intensive mining and you could actually get a GPU for a fair price, retail, non-scalper price gouging.
Now it’s right back to basically unaffordable for a name brand GPU. Literally more than a mortgage payment.
I wish my mortgage was that low.
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About a year since I upgraded from my RX580 and I only did it because I got an amazingly stupid deal on a RX7600 ($175 about 3 months after launch). Otherwise, the card is fine and is, in fact, still being used on my cousin's PC.
I have an RX580 as my eGpu. I was thinking of upgrading this year as I got a new laptop.
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Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It's all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks "slap an LLM everywhere". Just such horseshit
The tech industry chases acquisition and investor money only now, not consumer demand or innovative achievement. It's all just people trying to get rich, mostly so they can escape the effects of late stage capitalism.
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And there hasn't been another option for years but I'm seeing an awful lot of buzz for the PS5 Pro with people ditching PC and enjoying that more casual, sofa with a controller approach.
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And there hasn't been another option for years but I'm seeing an awful lot of buzz for the PS5 Pro with people ditching PC and enjoying that more casual, sofa with a controller approach.
Buzz for the Pro? All I've seen is people sneering at the lack of games taking advantage of the extra capabilities and the price.
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My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I'll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU
Rocking this Polaris 'till it Explodis
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Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs... The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.
Petition to shoot the next tech bro with a "innovative" idea
