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List of secret police organizations (Recently updated to include the US Department of Homeland Security)

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    Interesting... 👀

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      Interesting... 👀

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      Related

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_service_stations

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        Interesting... 👀

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        I found this article on the transformation of the DHS into a secret-police-like-organization from 2020 in the sources/references and thought it was worth sharing

        https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-dhs-was-destined-to-become-a-secret-police-force

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          Interesting... 👀

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          This, from the moment the Department Of Homeland Security was created, was always what the agency would evolve into.

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            Interesting... 👀

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            Interesting that the Ukranian Security service is listed here, even though it went through major reforms after Euromaiden.

            I wouldn’t say it’s any more of a “secret police” that something like the FBI.

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              Interesting that the Ukranian Security service is listed here, even though it went through major reforms after Euromaiden.

              I wouldn’t say it’s any more of a “secret police” that something like the FBI.

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              I mean, a secret police that does good things can still technically be a secret police.

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                Interesting... 👀

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                Its kind of funny that almost every country on the list is one I would never set a foot in

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                  I mean, a secret police that does good things can still technically be a secret police.

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                  This is part of the wikipedia definition of secret police. AFAIK that’s not the case of Ukraine here.

                  They protect the political power of a dictator or regime and often operate outside the law to repress dissidents and weaken political opposition, frequently using violence.

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                    I mean, a secret police that does good things can still technically be a secret police.

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                    Like the Secret Santa version of police. They quietly go about their business undoing injustice and helping vulnerable people.

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                      Interesting... 👀

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                      The names of those institutions would give you an all-time high score in a game of oppressive regime buzzword bingo. Whenever I hear someone say 'national security' I get the urge to hit myself over the head with a 2 by 4.

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                        The names of those institutions would give you an all-time high score in a game of oppressive regime buzzword bingo. Whenever I hear someone say 'national security' I get the urge to hit myself over the head with a 2 by 4.

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                        If "national security" can let a government kidnap people, then I can claim "personal security" and kidnap people, maybe on a smaller scale, like children.

                        /s please don't kidnap children

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                          Interesting that the Ukranian Security service is listed here, even though it went through major reforms after Euromaiden.

                          I wouldn’t say it’s any more of a “secret police” that something like the FBI.

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                          Waging a guess, it’s likely because of the wartime powers that suspended some individual rights, combined with the corruption purges and arrests of Russophile orthodox priests and party leaders that happened earlier in the war.

                          Justified as it may be to remove fifth columnists/foreign agents and puppets during total war, it’s still subverting the norms of a free society.

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                            Waging a guess, it’s likely because of the wartime powers that suspended some individual rights, combined with the corruption purges and arrests of Russophile orthodox priests and party leaders that happened earlier in the war.

                            Justified as it may be to remove fifth columnists/foreign agents and puppets during total war, it’s still subverting the norms of a free society.

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                            The sources justifying it are from before the Russian invasion.

                            And they are not really enough evidence. It’s basically bits and pieces that don’t really say enough plus one reuters quote that is probably influenced from pre-euromaiden.

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                              If "national security" can let a government kidnap people, then I can claim "personal security" and kidnap people, maybe on a smaller scale, like children.

                              /s please don't kidnap children

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                              I don't think I have adult capability but children are an achievable goal.

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