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France’s far-right leader Le Pen guilty of embezzlement in ruling that could end her career

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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Summary

    A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

    The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

    Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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    Womp womp!

    And kremlin deplores frances lack of democracy, so I sure think we're on the right track!

    Just waiting for the ineligibility time...

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      good news for once

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      Fantastic news even!

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      • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Summary

        A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

        The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

        Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

        wytch@lemmy.zipW This user is from outside of this forum
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        Wait, y'all can just convict a right-wing political figure and like, get rid of them? Forever?

        We gotta check our math, I think we did something wrong over here.

        C anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ rivalarrival@lemmy.todayR 6 Replies Last reply
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        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

          Summary

          A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

          The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

          Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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          • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            Let's hope the French justice system is more competent than the US one.

            cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Ask sarkozy

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            • wytch@lemmy.zipW [email protected]

              Wait, y'all can just convict a right-wing political figure and like, get rid of them? Forever?

              We gotta check our math, I think we did something wrong over here.

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              Yeah. It was reconstruction where we never held the south to account for their treasonous actions.

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              • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                Ask sarkozy

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                Pour quai?

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                  Pour quai?

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                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy_corruption_trial

                  And there is another trial going on. So the French justice system is sound.

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                    Les jeux sont faits

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                    Rien ne va plus.

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                    • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy_corruption_trial

                      And there is another trial going on. So the French justice system is sound.

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                      “sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants.

                      But yes, the french system is more successful at holding politicians accountable than the US.

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                        “sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants.

                        But yes, the french system is more successful at holding politicians accountable than the US.

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                        “sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants.

                        The justice system doesn't, the police does

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                        • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Summary

                          A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

                          The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

                          Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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                          Good, may that putinist piece of shit rot in prison.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            “sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants.

                            But yes, the french system is more successful at holding politicians accountable than the US.

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                            You’re moving goal posts. Context is politician as per the top comment.

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                            • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                              Summary

                              A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

                              The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

                              Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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                              Futurama Meme: Good news everyone

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                              • zier@fedia.ioZ [email protected]

                                What? Another 'conservative' who is a criminal?
                                Shocked! Shocked I say!

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                                She's not your average conservative. She's an actual fascist -- linked with Orbán, Trump, received millions from Putin, and her party was formed by and still includes numerous nazis, regardless of her rebranding efforts. This goes both for the founding members and the current recruits.

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                                • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                  Summary

                                  A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

                                  The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

                                  Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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                                  The worst thing in this statement is "could" - "could end her career".

                                  A system that automatically doesn't provide real consequences and makes an example of the criminal is a corrupt system in itself. There shouldn't even be a 'could' in a so-called 'fair and free system'.

                                  And this isn't just France, by far. Cheers from the banana Republic of Portugal, quite the paradise for corrupt politicians.

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                                  • wytch@lemmy.zipW [email protected]

                                    Wait, y'all can just convict a right-wing political figure and like, get rid of them? Forever?

                                    We gotta check our math, I think we did something wrong over here.

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                                    Lol of course not. She'll be right back in five years. And people will vote for her again.

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                                    • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      Summary

                                      A French court found far-right leader Marine Le Pen guilty of embezzling over €3 million in EU funds, potentially ending her 2027 presidential bid.

                                      The judge ruled Le Pen and 24 others misused European Parliament funds between 2004 and 2016 to pay National Rally party staff, calling it a deliberate scheme, not an error.

                                      Prosecutors had sought five years’ prison and a public office ban. Even with an appeal, a provisional execution could bar her candidacy.

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                                      Omelette with cheese

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                                        “sound” is a big word, for a justice system that perpetuates state violence and mistreats immigrants.

                                        The justice system doesn't, the police does

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                                        I kinda disagree here. Ofc the police is on the front line, but the judges protect policemen and policewomen from being convicted or too harshly punished.

                                        More generally, it is judges who decide to send people to prison, to inflict economic and social punishments on people deviating from the state, to send refugees back to suffering or death they tried to escape from. I saw trials in France where the judges considered the fact that a militant had anarchist books in his library as aggravating circumstance. I studied law for 3 years and made internship in tribunals, and it is not a misconception to say that the judiciary system is protecting and perpetrating state violence, though it's less bloody than what the cops can do.

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                                          The worst thing in this statement is "could" - "could end her career".

                                          A system that automatically doesn't provide real consequences and makes an example of the criminal is a corrupt system in itself. There shouldn't even be a 'could' in a so-called 'fair and free system'.

                                          And this isn't just France, by far. Cheers from the banana Republic of Portugal, quite the paradise for corrupt politicians.

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                                          Even in cases like this justice must not just be done, but be seen to be done. It seems her guilt has been established, which is good; her sentencing comes next. It seem unlikely that there are any mitigating circumstances to reduce the punishment, but that judgement must be seen to be fair. The French citizenry are not renouned for their forebearance in the face of injustice, so I would be tempted to trust their system for now.

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