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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

    I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

    Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

    God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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    I subscribe to a lot of full time "content creators" that are ad supported and supported via donations.

    I curate my feed meticulously to avoid slop, and I get a lot of value, learning and entertainment from those I follow.

    I believe they deserve to be paid for the tremendous amount of work they put in.

    Some sort of ability to generate a livable wage from creating high quality content seems reasonable, no?

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    • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

      Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

      God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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      I mean, sure but we are past that. No large YouTuber will give up getting paid, and go to a system with a much smaller user base so even stuff like affiliate links and sponsorships are worth less. Basically double lose money just to join peertube. Especially since most large YouTubers have a team of people who they pay, so they cannot afford for their employees sake to take such a large loss just to support peertube.

      More likely this leads to Vimeo, or like twitch TikTok or something else being able to support a normal video platform than it leads to people using peertube.

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      • indianajones@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]
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        When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it's time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.

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          Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn't van him.
          This is the channel of the Nazi:
          https://youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA

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          Just don't make a video criticizing the nazi using snippets of the nazi's videos, because that's when you risk getting taken down for hate speech.

          Smaller channels have this happen to them on a regular basis when they criticize bigger channels like, say, Matt Walsh. In that case, it's because YT likes the bigger channel better for giving more ad revenue. They only ban chuds after they become irrelevant, and that's only to save face — for example, when they banned Stefan Molyneux he was hardly popular anymore.

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            Fuck rainbow capitalism

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            I'm more concerned about "anti-rainbow" capitalism. Like what's happening right now where instead of being performatively progressive they become performatively reactionary. (Well, I suppose that's just reactionary.)

            Basically what I mean is I want rainbow capitalism to exist, but in a very specific way: I want rainbow capitalism to be the bare minimum a company has to implement if they want to exist. I want the social circumstances to force them to at least pretend to be on the right side of history.

            Honestly, the real problem in rainbow capitalism is the capitalism part.

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              When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it's time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.

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              Pichai kissed the ring. He's colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

              All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I'm at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that's me.

              I'd be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

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              • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

                Nope. The admin of sh.itjust.works lets you use their storage for free. Google does not.

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                Okay, as I said in my other replies, the videos are unlisted, not monetized, and I don't pay for it. What is not free about that?

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                • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  I have watch history disabled

                  Man how many people fail to fucking read this is literally re-enforcing my point that maybe more people need to read. This me, quoting myself, from above. Further, someone else made the same kind of comment over a half hour ago and I responded the same, noting that I had already mentioned that I have watch history disabled, so Youtube does not and cannot give me recommendations based on my watch history.

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                  That's a you problem. Why are you complaining?

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                    Okay, as I said in my other replies, the videos are unlisted, not monetized, and I don't pay for it. What is not free about that?

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                    Is money is the only thing about yourself that you ascribe value to?

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                      That's a you problem. Why are you complaining?

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                      Y'all are just really desperate to kill any remaining faith I had in humanity that they aren't all stupid selfish jerks, huh?

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                        Your problem is that you want to censor ideas you don't like.

                        You want to control what other people think by dictating what they get to see and what they're allowed to share with others.

                        You are going to grasp at whatever straw you can to get rid of people saying things you don't like.

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                        Companies censor ideas all the time. McDonald's employees don't tell their customers how ugly they are... it's against company policy. Youtube is a company that can implement whatever company policies they like and if you don't like it you can go somewhere else.

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                          And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

                          Look who's laughing now.

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                          Those aren't opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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                          • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

                            Those aren't opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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                            but google's profits!!!

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                            • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.orgC [email protected]

                              "Don't Be Evil"

                              (I know this hasn't been the Google motto in years -- when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)

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                              If they were really serious about not being evil, they would've formed as a public benefit corporation (which they did not).

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                              • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

                                Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

                                God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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                                MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators.

                                MetaFilter has at multiple points been on the verge of shutting down, now? IIRC, you pay $5 for an account.

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                                • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

                                  If they were really serious about not being evil, they would've formed as a public benefit corporation (which they did not).

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                                  Yes. Avenues exist. But money is corrupting.

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                                  • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

                                    Is money is the only thing about yourself that you ascribe value to?

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                                    That's not an answer to my question.

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                                      Google should get destroyed

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        Nebula doesn't have that kind of 'popular' YouTubers, it's a creator-made platform that's more focused on science and documentary channels. I don't think I've seen anything on Nebula even remotely related to gaming.

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                                        There's definitely gaming content on there, but what I've seen has been of the long-form analysis type.

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.

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                                          The 'not leaving centralized services' thing isn't really helped when there's basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it's a content desert, sadly.

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