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Former German foreign minister suggests Canada should be part of EU

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    It's not possible by current legislation aswell. You need to be on the European continent to join the EU.

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    Fun fact: being located on the European continent is actually not a requirement. It is only mentioned that you need to be "European" which is open to interpretation (although, of course the continent comes to mind first). It basically says you have to have some relation towards being European, whether that is by politics, culture or by location (preferrably all of the above).

    The best example would be Cyprus, which is actually located on the Asian continent but is culturally closer to Europe than Asia.

    Canada feels like one of the more "European" leaning countries considering this. That said, I think the chance of them joining the EU in the close future admittedly feels pretty low. But you never know, maybe the EU evolves into something of a counter concept to whatever is happening in the USA right now.

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      Canada joins EU, blue states join Canada. Bada bing, bada boom

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      The majority of people even in blue states were fine with Trump. No thanks, they can stay where they are.

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      • halcyon@discuss.tchncs.deH [email protected]

        How about "The Commonsense"?

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        It would be nice, but we're not there yet.

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        • C [email protected]

          You can still decorate your Euros how you want, so we could keep our beavers and loons.

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          You have loons on your doubloons? 👀

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            ATON - Atlantic Treaty Organization of the North?

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            We could get rid of all nukes and still threaten with aton bombs.

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            • H [email protected]

              Actually, the EU has a whole bouquet of options for countries that want to cooperate with it. It can be trade agreements, free trade area, currency union, Schengen Area and so on. Norway, Switzerland and Turkey are examples of different degrees of associated status.

              But be aware that any full EU membership would non-negotiable include the right of not only companies but also people to move freely in the common area - yes, that would mean that any EU citizen has the right to move to and live in Canada, and vice versa, as long as these persons can support themselves.

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              Discrimination against people that can't support themselves.

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                Nah we just need a fancy team name for the not-absolute-fuck-head countries.

                I mean EU is Europe and I fucking love you guys but down here in Australia we can't just up and move the continent to Europe.

                I don't think the name should be dependent on membership like BRICS or whatever because you don't want to have to rebrand when you kick someone out or let someone in.

                I think it should include a word like collaborative because honestly, that's what it's about - we're better off working together.

                It's also important to choose a name with a catchy acronym that isn't already taken.

                Maybe Collaborative Union of Nice Terran States.

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                How about just, free world. The rest are fascist dictatorships anyway.

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                  Nah we just need a fancy team name for the not-absolute-fuck-head countries.

                  I mean EU is Europe and I fucking love you guys but down here in Australia we can't just up and move the continent to Europe.

                  I don't think the name should be dependent on membership like BRICS or whatever because you don't want to have to rebrand when you kick someone out or let someone in.

                  I think it should include a word like collaborative because honestly, that's what it's about - we're better off working together.

                  It's also important to choose a name with a catchy acronym that isn't already taken.

                  Maybe Collaborative Union of Nice Terran States.

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                  But its about European values.
                  Compassion, democracy, empathy, forgiveness and freedom

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                    It doesn't really make sense for Canada to be a member of the EU simply because Canada isn't in Europe. What we could do is grant Canada a deal similar to what Norway has now. We're one of four members of EFTA, which are part of the EEA without being EU members.

                    I must admit that my knowledge of Canada is shallow at best but my impression is that its overall values align well with western European democracies.

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                      I completely forgot that this guy was our foreign minister for over a year.

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                      What, you forgot all about Siggie den Grätenlosen, Siggie the Fishboneless?

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                        But its about European values.
                        Compassion, democracy, empathy, forgiveness and freedom

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                        I still would not call them European values, it comes of as values that exist in Europe and nowhere else. And I'd rather have compassion, democracy etc everywhere.

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                          Why not EU (earth united)

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                          EEU (Europe Etc Union)

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                          • C [email protected]

                            I like "Commonwealth".

                            But I re-read your comment and the initialism is a solid option.

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                            That would be confusing since then Canada would be part of two commonwealths.

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                              Nah we just need a fancy team name for the not-absolute-fuck-head countries.

                              I mean EU is Europe and I fucking love you guys but down here in Australia we can't just up and move the continent to Europe.

                              I don't think the name should be dependent on membership like BRICS or whatever because you don't want to have to rebrand when you kick someone out or let someone in.

                              I think it should include a word like collaborative because honestly, that's what it's about - we're better off working together.

                              It's also important to choose a name with a catchy acronym that isn't already taken.

                              Maybe Collaborative Union of Nice Terran States.

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                              You just answered yourself. Just call it CUNAFHC - Collaborative Union of Not-Absolute-Fuck-Head-Countries

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                                How about just, free world. The rest are fascist dictatorships anyway.

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                                Not true, there's also we poor countries who can't afford hanging around with the nice guys in the block

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                                  Not true, there's also we poor countries who can't afford hanging around with the nice guys in the block

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                                  Well who says you cant join up? An alliance like NATO doesnt have a price tag except for the 2% minimum defence limit, but it’s 2% subjective to your income. So you literally can afford that.

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                                    It would mean replacing The CAD with the EUR, would be kinda funny to see EU flags on the border between the US and Canada though...

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                                    I want this if only just to see Vance complaining about EU expansion at their border.

                                    No need for them to adopt the Euro though. Many EU countries are still on their original currency even now.

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                                      Discrimination against people that can't support themselves.

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                                      Not really. It prevents countries from bearing the burden of maintaining other nation's unemployed, incapacitated, etc...

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                                        It doesn't really make sense for Canada to be a member of the EU simply because Canada isn't in Europe. What we could do is grant Canada a deal similar to what Norway has now. We're one of four members of EFTA, which are part of the EEA without being EU members.

                                        I must admit that my knowledge of Canada is shallow at best but my impression is that its overall values align well with western European democracies.

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                                        This is exactly what I was thinking.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          Well who says you cant join up? An alliance like NATO doesnt have a price tag except for the 2% minimum defence limit, but it’s 2% subjective to your income. So you literally can afford that.

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                                          Yes but then you'd need NATO's approval. Remember how Erdogan put all sorts of 'but's to Finland and Sweden, countries with way more wealth (and more arguments to be included in NATO) than one like mine

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