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I hope i don't get downvoted for this

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    What do tribal cultures regard as sexy?

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    In many tribal societies, the erotic focus isn’t on specific body parts like breasts or feet; it's on signs of fertility, health, and social status. things like wide hips, smooth skin, body paint, scarification, or even dance.

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    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

      I’m saying that from a third person perspective, theres nothing about them which inherently arousing

      There seems to be ample evidence to the contrary. Whole pornographic industries exist to cater to people aroused by pictures of people in various states of undress.

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      You're still not getting it. The key word here is 'inherently'.

      The sexual interest in people of different states of undress, or specific attire, is just another form of novelty, and influenced by culture.

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        Just like mouth, ears and all kind of body parts are capable of providing sexual stimulation without being considered arousing in the sense we still view breasts/ass and such.

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        #170

        Precisely.
        It's amazing how people have misinterpreted what I've been saying lol.

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          I'm not surprised since your OP is boilerplate nudist justification and not really any exploration of paraphilia.

          I think there's a mile in between puritanical shame and thinking the body isn't and shouldn't be considered sexual and is fit for public consumption. Why is it important to desexualize the human body? What's the benefit?

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          I never implied the body shouldn't be considered sexual, I was just explaining why certain body parts are.

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          • 58008@lemmy.world5 [email protected]

            Kids. Thank god I'm not attracted to kids. Or animals. Anything else is fair game. Feet attached to a consenting adult are fine. Don't see the big deal. I like to spit-shine the rusty sheriff's badge, so why the fuck would I care if someone likes a boring regular appendage like a foot? 🤷‍

            Unless there's some angle to this non-foot people don't understand? Like, maybe being turned on by feet is comorbid with an uncontrollable need to blast rope over any uncovered foot you see? Now that would suck.

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            #172

            I'm trying real hard to figure what a rusty sheriff badge is an allegory for

            ...... OH

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            • T [email protected]

              So very true. People always think there's something wrong with you.

              If you dont mind me asking, is it all sex or specific kinds?

              Ive found this is also me to a degree. Enjoy performing things for the partner, but anything done to me does nothing including PiV.

              Difficult to find discourse involving this so Apologies if this is prying lmao

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              I find the wide variety of ace experiences super interesting. For my part, I'm bi and also demisexual (and I have been working hard at practicing not ace-erasing myself).

              An example of the interesting variety I mean is how libido and attraction aren't necessarily coupled, and also that even besides those factors, there's a spectrum of ace attitudes towards sex. I had a friend who had a high libido, but was also quite sex-repulsed. That is to say that she masturbated plenty, but had no inclination towards sex. This caused some tension when she entered into a romantic relationship with an allosexual woman who had some difficulty understanding an ace person being both sex repulsed and high libido (though tbf, my friend was learning how to navigate the line between enjoyable cuddles and unpleasantly sexual stuff. She also tried to fit into the model of aceness similar to what you describe, but she found that her discomfort with sex was such that it made her feel less close to her partner (in contrast to how our sex-ambivalent ace friends had described their experiences).

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              • zozano@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                Precisely.
                It's amazing how people have misinterpreted what I've been saying lol.

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                People get emotional around this topic pretty fast. Don't take the downvotes personally, i found your statements perfectly rational.

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                  What's wrong with feet?

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                    #176

                    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonics-dirty-feet

                    You're welcome... I think?

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                    • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                      personally, it's kinda hard to say? i have felt romantic attraction exactly once in my life, so i know i'm not fully aromantic, but also it's only happened once so i'm probably on the aro spectrum somewhere

                      but yes, there are many people who are asexual but who still feel romantic attraction to others

                      (and of course, not all attraction is sexual or romantic, there is also aesthetic attraction for example (literally just when you find people pretty), which i do feel, my meme was pretty reductive all things considered, but then again it's just a meme)

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                      So I know with a rather high degree of certainty I'm ace, but I continue to have trouble untangling aromanticism from my aversion to people and mild paranoia.

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                      • fossilesque@mander.xyzF [email protected]

                        https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sonics-dirty-feet

                        You're welcome... I think?

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                        It's not a good day to have eyes

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                          I'm trying real hard to figure what a rusty sheriff badge is an allegory for

                          ...... OH

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                          Tongue-punching the fart box

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                            I'm trying real hard to figure what a rusty sheriff badge is an allegory for

                            ...... OH

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                            Chocolate starfish, leather cheerio, balloon knot.

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                              I don’t really get it tbh….

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                              • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Chocolate starfish, leather cheerio, balloon knot.

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                                I don't know what a cheerio is but the others I can see. Thanks for clarifying

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                                • zozano@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                  You're still not getting it. The key word here is 'inherently'.

                                  The sexual interest in people of different states of undress, or specific attire, is just another form of novelty, and influenced by culture.

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                                  The key word here is ‘inherently’.

                                  Name something that is inherently sexy.

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                                    I don't know what a cheerio is but the others I can see. Thanks for clarifying

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                                    They're great for breakfast!

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                                    • machinist@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      They're great for breakfast!

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                                      This looks like what I would call a beignet, and indeed I can see the resemblance with the sheriff's badge

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                                      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                        The key word here is ‘inherently’.

                                        Name something that is inherently sexy.

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                                        You're asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

                                        “Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

                                        Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever... they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

                                        If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

                                        Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.

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                                        • zozano@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                          You're asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

                                          “Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

                                          Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever... they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

                                          If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

                                          Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.

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                                          Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty.

                                          One of these things is not like the other.

                                          If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such

                                          Naked bodies are inherently sexy and every culture in history has treated them as such. The details vary by the presenter, with different individuals and venues paying special attention to this or that attribute. But you're arguing against the "inherentness" of human attraction to other humans.

                                          That's not a discussion of artistic (or, I guess, pornographic) merit. It's merely an expression of an asexual subjective view.

                                          And that's why you're stumbling. You don't seem to want to acknowledge other human bodies as sexy. You're blinded by your own personal biases and projecting it onto others.

                                          Nothing’s inherently sexy

                                          Humans are inherently sexy. That's why they have sex with each other.

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