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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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    This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

    They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

    I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

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      The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

      The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

      The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

      The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

      Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

      Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

      Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

      How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

      A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

      Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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      Times of Israel

      Should be called Crimes of Israel

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        It's absolutely not okay, but since there will be no negative consequences for it whatsoever, it's the new normal. This is sadly what happens when laws are not enforced, and I'm not sure if anything even can be done anymore...

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        There's always something.

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          How is this all normal and ok?

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          It is “statistically” normal in that governments and corporations will always choose death because it is profitable.

          It is not and never has been ok.

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            How is this all normal and ok?

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            It is not.

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              The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

              The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

              The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

              The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

              Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

              Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

              Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

              How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

              A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

              Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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              Sounds like propaganda, based on the source

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                Sounds like propaganda, based on the source

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                It sounds nearly identical to the program Time said Palantir was using in Israel in December 2024 to help track Hamas

                “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity.

                Except if they just come right out and say that, it becomes more difficult to deny the U.S. is already directly involved. Especially since they just gave members of Palantir positions in the U.S. military

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                  No it doesn't.

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                  Truth is hard to swallow. Regardless, people are dying anyway.

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                    The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

                    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

                    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

                    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

                    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

                    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

                    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

                    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

                    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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                    Cell phones exploding?

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                    • teamassimilation@infosec.pubT [email protected]

                      This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

                      They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

                      I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

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                      It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

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                        Truth is hard to swallow. Regardless, people are dying anyway.

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                        Truth is hard to swallow

                        Apparently Israel's cock is not

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                          Wait where does it say that specifically?

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                          It was a joke. The weapon used by Israel is secret. Jewish space lasers is a reference to an idiotic tweet by Marjorie Taylor Greene that suggested that the 2018 California wildfires were started by some global conspiracy group with an "energy-based" space weapon. The user you replied to is saying they're going to be upset if it turns out Israel actually does have space lasers.

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                            Anyone who gets uncomfortable with government surveillance because it could be used to target certain demographics of people needs to look no further than what Israel has done to prove their point.

                            The only thing stopping the world from autonomously targeting people by online demographic is common human decency, and humanity is running on very short supply of that these days.

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                            But that is their dream for the future. Purely automatically managing the populace as some sort of a farm.

                            It's an arms race. Like at any other point in history. Between those who think personal dignity and freedom and equality are a mistake of history or a device to keep the herd patient, and that they deserve to rule, and those who don't.

                            The good part is that this has already been tried. A fast system with deadlocks is not that different from a slow system with deadlocks. And a big redundant system deterministically degrading in itself is not that different from a smaller less redundant system deterministically degrading in itself. No USSR and no Nazi Germany anymore on the map.

                            The parts about lying and false pretense of law and democracy are new, but not too much - rulers of Frederic the Great's time had false pretenses of knightly behavior and following imperial mechanisms. One can even compare 30 years war to our two world wars in the sense of creating a new world order, which was considered impossible to change due to endless horrors following that, but eventually become a farce.

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                              Truth is hard to swallow

                              Apparently Israel's cock is not

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                              Equating Israel to USA in its right to exist is not swallowing its cock.

                              They are right. Except one problem still can be solved, the other not so much. Maybe a few centuries after now somebody will think of something. Slow demographic changes and more modern weapons, that stuff.

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                                Cell phones exploding?

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                                My bet is on small assassination drone. People like having windows in their bedroom. Small drone flies to house, has some mechanism to break window, then blows up once inside the bedroom.

                                I bet it’s unpublished not because its technology of any particularly impressive degree. Its unpublished because everyday people could easily design the same thing with enough minor technical expertise. They train cadets at West Point to build this exact type of shit out of consumer goods for a reason

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                                  It's not normal. It's ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.

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                                  More than just America need to stand against Israel.

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                                    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                                    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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                                    o no! israel thwarted iran's nuclear ambitions! the horror!!!

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                                      How is this all normal and ok?

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                                      https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12587#%3A~%3Atext=The+State+Department+assesses+that%2Cvia+its+governance+of+Gaza.

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                                        The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

                                        The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

                                        The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

                                        The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

                                        Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                                        Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

                                        Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

                                        How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

                                        A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

                                        Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

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                                        israel and the us all deserve the nuremberg treatment for their crimes

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                                          Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

                                          This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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                                          I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

                                          The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

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