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  • N [email protected]

    I made my point that only a complete idiot would "vacation" in North Korea under it current political leadership.

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    I can hear the wooosh from here.

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      I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and respond to your 4-word insult comment, because I think it's important and I'm assuming you either didn't realize that OP is saying they currently won't go there because of the political situation, or you're saying that the existence of the current political situation completely erases any potential historical or cultural value the people and the country may have or have ever had or ever will have and that's a really awful thing to say and I can't imagine how someone could have that attitude without intentional hyperbole unless they're being a disgustingly intolerant bigot.

      Iran is a beautiful country, in most of its history it was Persia. They were fierce warriors yes but also academics and scholars. They provided the foundation of modern astronomy and mathematics and were a beacon of civilization and education. We literally use "arabic" numbers today because of them. There is beautiful architecture, beautiful geography, beautiful wildlife in Iran and none of that had any choice about the government. There are wonderful people there, including ones who protest the regime and fight for democracy and human rights.

      The modern tyrannical islamofascist government sucks and of course nobody should go there now or at any foreseeable point in the future, but it's not stupid to want to go there, and if they had a safe, friendly democratic nation (which it should be pointed out many of the people in Iran and who have fled Iran's current regime would also like) I absolutely would love to visit too. I'm less interested in North Korea, personally, but I can understand that it might appeal to others and there might be interesting places and things and people there too that I'm just not interested in or don't know about. I would also love to go to Russia too. Again, I would only do that without the government or the bad parts of their culture, but I still love many of the parts of their history and culture. I don't hate the people or the land. I hate the evil governments and the shitty cultural attitudes.

      Try not to have shitty cultural attitudes yourself, appreciate and avoid invalidating the good parts of other people's cultures, and it will help the world to be a better place where we can all get along.

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      Traveling the Silk Road would be truly amazing.

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      • lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caL [email protected]

        Wow, a vacation location I would like to visit even less than the US.

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        Idk, at least it would be interesting.

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        • K [email protected]

          Yes, which is why it's important for them to realize what they're getting themselves into. Did Warmbier deserve what happened to him? Absolutely not, but knowing what happened and still going over there to play tourist means you've understood, accepted and internalized the possible risk. I will reserve my tears for the many thousands of people who get into trouble through no fault of their own.

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          When i went to Singapore, people told me that they arrest you there if you spit on the street or litter and find just any kind of drugs on you.
          I was like cool, i'm not doing all these things anyway and when i go somewhere i adjust myself to the country. Same goes for NK. You know where you are going, and even if the laws are stupid and no one deserves what he got, everyone who takes secret pictures or takes stuff they don't want you to can expect the worst. Personally i would love to go to see NK, and i wouldn't break any of their stupid laws, but i also don't trust them enough and assume they can and will jail you anyway if they really want to.

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            Don't mind me wrong, but looking at what Dubai is doing, I am not surprised Kim thinks people can forget about NK reality for a nice beach.

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              Rank 165 of 167 democracy...

              Rank 179 of 180 press freedom...

              Let's book the tickets, honey. We are traveling to jail.

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              That just makes me wonder who they are beating in these rankings

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                Fantastic news for ml! I'm sure they'll visit in droves.

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                Lets finance that.

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                • O [email protected]

                  That just makes me wonder who they are beating in these rankings

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                  180 / 180 Press freedom - Eritrea 🇪🇷

                  166 / 167 Democracy index - Myanmar 🇲🇲

                  167 / 167 Democracy index - Afghanistan 🇦🇫

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                    That just makes me wonder who they are beating in these rankings

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                    Their people?

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                    • O [email protected]

                      That just makes me wonder who they are beating in these rankings

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                      Myanmar and Afghanistan, apparently

                      And for press, Eritrea

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                        Don't mind me wrong, but looking at what Dubai is doing, I am not surprised Kim thinks people can forget about NK reality for a nice beach.

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                        Hah! Good fucking point! Only thing I guess is that Dubai has a wonnnderful propaganda team winning over the hearts and minds of Western audiences, while NK has synchronized communist dancing events.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Kim was educated in Europe, not like he's clueless about the outside world. Also, there's such a thing as "poverty tourism". (I forget the word.)

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                          He was educated in prestigious rich cunt schools in fucking Switzerland. He has zero clue about the outside world, the super rich don't experience any of it, it's all a sealed little political incest bubble.

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                            Imagine how silent and unpolluted NK is, ngl it would be a great vacation if not for the moral concerns

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                              Hah! Good fucking point! Only thing I guess is that Dubai has a wonnnderful propaganda team winning over the hearts and minds of Western audiences, while NK has synchronized communist dancing events.

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                              Dubai also is smack dab in the middle of “Oil Land”

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                              • N [email protected]

                                I made my point that only a complete idiot would "vacation" in North Korea under it current political leadership.

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                                You need to work on your reading comprehension then, because as I said:

                                OP's comment is clearly saying they currently won’t go there because of the political situation. That's why they said "BUT I'm not stupid". They are agreeing that it would be stupid to go there now, that's why their statement of wanting to go there is made conditional on a "but" that is false.

                                Like saying, "I love spicy food and I wish I could eat a whole ghost pepper at once, BUT I'm not stupid [implied: so I WON'T eat a whole ghost pepper at once]"

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                                  Just imagine all the opportunities for bankruptcy! The orange turd is getting turned on!

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                                    180 / 180 Press freedom - Eritrea 🇪🇷

                                    166 / 167 Democracy index - Myanmar 🇲🇲

                                    167 / 167 Democracy index - Afghanistan 🇦🇫

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                                    Damn sad, those poor people

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                                      Damn sad, those poor people

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                                      My heart hurts thinking of the girls and women in Afghanistan.

                                      Fucking sauvages

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                                        Lets finance that.

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                                        I'll buck in a kick.

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                                          Imagine how silent and unpolluted NK is, ngl it would be a great vacation if not for the moral concerns

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                                          Damn, you're right. I wouldn't want to vacation anywhere that has a long history of atrocious civil rights abuses.

                                          Books tickets to Florida

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