Me too, man
-
The real reason is to accomodate for parents' routines. You need the kid in a place where someone can watch them for you by the time you leave for work (or not long after). Plus yeah they gotta learn to follow schedules and have responsibilities and such. Not saying I think it's a perfect system, I too hated getting off bed early in the morning.
The problem is that this schedule is literally unhealthy for them. Like, actual health outcome in the long run bad for them. Its fucked up and "parent needs daycare" & "learning schedules and responsibilities" is a terrible justification.
-
i disagree. my elementary school started later and thats the age when parents really need to be more present. and as a kid i had no issue getting up early vs as a teen. they should just flip it. teens on a bus route, or hell even witj friends with a car, are way more capable of getting themselves to school
"Should" is doing some heavy lifting here.
Sleep patterns start changing around puberty. Young kids tend to get up earlier, naturally; teenage biorhythms are tuned to stay up later, and sleep late.
But we don't have a society where it's safe to let teens run around by themselves, except for some rural communities, so schedules are based - as GP says - around parent's schedules. And because of workplace demands, whether it's a reasonable requirement because the job demands an in-person presence like the service sector, or because of idiotic, arbitrary in-office policies, that usually means parents need to have their kids in school before 8, or 8:30 if they're lucky, so they can be at their desks by the standard 9am.
Little kids, this is less of an issue, but it really fucks with teenager's biorhythms, because they're designed to be sleeping until 10 and going to sleep at midnight at that age.
There's a ton of studies about this, and there's been a lot of work by K-12 to figure out how to accommodate a balance; and some companies even have policies allowing for flex time to help, but on average - as usual - Corporate America fucks it up.
-
Teens' circadian rhythm doesn't let them get tired before 10pm.
I haven't seen any research like that. Could you link it for me, please?
-
for years my mom forced us to go.to bed at 8pm ( I only.rebel.when I was about 12). All my childhood. Mind you we didn't had phones so we would be there on the bed in the dark THINKING. And that's why I have anxiety.
That 22:34 on the alarm clock always made me something. Like a magic number. Now I'll be tired tomorrow.
-
This post did not contain any content.
Nevermind that I had also been up until 1am having a complete crying breakdown because the printer wouldn't work for whatever assignments. And had only gotten home at 8pm due to extracurriculars running so late.
-
This post did not contain any content.
If they woke up at 6am and caught the bus at 6:40, how is 40 minutes not enough time to get ready?
-
for years my mom forced us to go.to bed at 8pm ( I only.rebel.when I was about 12). All my childhood. Mind you we didn't had phones so we would be there on the bed in the dark THINKING. And that's why I have anxiety.
I would stare at walls, as I literally had no entertainment, and overthink the world. I reached some very fucked up conclussions.
-
This post did not contain any content.
In my 30s and I'm still mad about it.
Especially considering how much time at school was an absolute waste.
-
I learned more math from Khan Academy. If I knew about it, I would have started Khan Academy as soon as it existed (and bitcoin mining)
-
I left school around 9th grade, did "homeschool" which amounted to basically just watching documentaries and smoking weed and now I'm one of the highest earners out of everyone I originally went to school with. From being that weird poor kid who always got bullied to being quite comfortable- life is fuckin' weird.
-
I left school around 9th grade, did "homeschool" which amounted to basically just watching documentaries and smoking weed and now I'm one of the highest earners out of everyone I originally went to school with. From being that weird poor kid who always got bullied to being quite comfortable- life is fuckin' weird.
-
wrote last edited by [email protected]
School is just to prepare you for working in a capitalistic hellhole.
-
If they woke up at 6am and caught the bus at 6:40, how is 40 minutes not enough time to get ready?
Depends, I guess. If you’re healthy and have good organizational habits and are confident with someone who makes your breakfast and takes care of everything else while you eat, brush, poop, and dress before walking to the bus stop - and don’t need to be particularly coherent - 40 minutes sounds like plenty.
-
My highschool used the same blueprints as the local prison, so.. yep that all tracks and they don’t even try to hide it.
-
This post did not contain any content.wrote last edited by [email protected]
And god forbid your circadian rhythm doesn't align and you fall asleep in class.
You can get referred for a drug test because only high people fall asleep during the day.
-
The way I see it, you're probably freest from the ages one to four
Around the age of five you're shipped away for your body to be stored
They promise education, but really they give you tests and scores
And they predictin' prison population by who scoring the lowestSo much of the education system is centered on child abuse and grooming children to accept abuse as adults
Many African American slaves did not know they were slaves until about age 6, because they were not given work when too young to be useful. Sounds familiar...
-
The real reason is to accomodate for parents' routines. You need the kid in a place where someone can watch them for you by the time you leave for work (or not long after). Plus yeah they gotta learn to follow schedules and have responsibilities and such. Not saying I think it's a perfect system, I too hated getting off bed early in the morning.
Corporation's routines*. Has nothing to do with what the billions of parents want. It's what like 100 people want.
-
This post did not contain any content.
7:10 for me!
-
And god forbid your circadian rhythm doesn't align and you fall asleep in class.
You can get referred for a drug test because only high people fall asleep during the day.
I have always struggled with sleep onset insomnia. In an ideal world, I'd probably sleep from around 5 am until noon, and my best working hours are from 7pm until 11pm, without fail. Even when I am exhausted from forcing myself to get up early for an extended period, I'll still perk up in the late evening, and struggle to sleep before 3am. This combined awfully with school.
I remember once that I was so exhausted, I literally fell asleep while walking, and I didn't wake up when I hit the floor. What's striking in hindsight is how little sympathy there was. I wasn't accused of being a drug user, but there were plenty of comments about laziness, which is absurd given that I was obviously severely exhausted.
A friend was the primary carer for a disabled relative, and this required her to get up at 5am each day, and to get up during the night to administer medication. She would often fall asleep in class, and she frequently got detention for this (which she would then often need to skip, to ensure she could get home in time to pick up siblings from school). Speaking with her years later, she lamented that if teachers had been more sympathetic and actually tried to understand what was going on here, it might've led to there being formal support to care for her relative. The amount of work she was doing was absurd for anyone, let alone a 13 year old, but she didn't know this, let alone that there were support channels to help young carers like her.
-
Depends, I guess. If you’re healthy and have good organizational habits and are confident with someone who makes your breakfast and takes care of everything else while you eat, brush, poop, and dress before walking to the bus stop - and don’t need to be particularly coherent - 40 minutes sounds like plenty.
Why would you need anyone else? My entire morning routine is around 30 minutes and has been from childhood to adulthood. This includes poop, shower, brush, clothes. As a child it was breakfast like cereal. As an adult it's homemade coffee and a banana or bagel. When I worked at a hospital, I'd often get an egg sandwich made in the cafeteria or eggs and other typical American foods for breakfast.
Only recently working from home have I now graduated to making my own eggs, and sometimes egg sandwich. Takes all of 7 minutes.
