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What do you do when homeless folks ask for money?

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    When I was younger a person who I admired said:

    "I always carry some extra money in my wallet for when someone needy asks. It's not my place to decide if this person needs help or not. Maybe they will use the money for drugs, maybe they need the money for clothes for their children. When I die and get to the pearly gates, I don't want to find out that I had the opportunity to help someone who needed help and I didn't help them because I assumed they would spend the money on drugs. Maybe they will spend the money on drugs, but that's not for me to know right now."

    I thought that was some of the most noble shit my early 20's ass had ever heard.

    Fast-forward a few years to me and my new wife honeymooning in...San Francisco. My noble naive ass brought a wallet full of cash with me so I could help people in need. Nothing terrible happened, but I soon ran out of cash and we decided to start handing out food. NOBODY WANTED THE FOOD. They just wanted the money. I would offer food, and they would just say "do you have any money?"

    Anyway, nowadays I just say "sorry bro, I don't carry cash".

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    To be somewhat optimistic, in my experience going out to help homeless people, everyone gives food but there's a lot of other stuff people need. Toothpaste, hand sanitizer, blankets, clothes, etc. are a lot harder to get. There's also people who live in storage units and need money to cover that. And yeah, theres a lpt of people who just want to buy drugs, but tbh so would I if I had to deal with what they do.

    If I were to become homeless, I wouldn't be worried about finding food, I know where to go to get that, I'd be worried about everything else. Not wanting food doesn't mean they don't need help

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      Been there done that. You never, ever know what’s the story behind a beggar. If I have and feel like it and I’m not in a rush I give. This is a fucked up world.

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      There was a time in my adult life that I was stealing water from a construction site so I could care for my ill partner after losing work and family members. I did claw out and found new work and a whole new life, but I was down that far and worse and you wouldn't know it by looking at me now. I'm sure I was more than dirty at the time from having to walk everywhere. I uber'd a lot, but you can't do that every day.

      I came very close to asking strangers for help. I guess I did to some degree, I did ask for help on online forums specifically for that purpose, got very little response... but why does that seem "better" to so many people? Is it the eye-contact with someone you could become? Is it fear that you don't feel the sympathy you think you should if you look at them?

      Is it harder to smile at a poor or homeless person than someone getting out of their nice car? Why or why not?

      These are all better questions that readers should ask themselves than try to answer here for the reactions of strangers. We really don't ponder enough and it's breaking everything at the seams.

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      • muziriyaolili@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Actually a good one. Thx.

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        You’re welcome. If you ever want me to do it again just let me know 🙂 I am very impressed by anyone learning more than one language. I only really know this one.

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          This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

          I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

          I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

          Its tough.

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          It's not tough.

          Look them in the eyes like a human being and say "sorry dude, not today".

          Alternatively just carry small amounts of cash to give to them.

          Another alternative is asking them if they would like some food instead.

          No matter what you do, keep in mind you are very likely a small step away from homelessness yourself.

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          • B [email protected]

            This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

            I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

            I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

            Its tough.

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            I just say "sorry, I haven't". I think as long as you just try to acknowledge them in a good way, i.e. smiling, maintaining eye contact, being polite, so you still acknowledge them as the human being that they are.

            Sure it's bad to lie, but so is being insensitive with the truth, whether it's "I wanna spend the money on myself" or "there are more effective ways to make a difference than giving money to you"

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              This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

              I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

              I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

              Its tough.

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              I hate when they come by the car and look in your car.. if you move a little they think your gonna give them money..

              Sucks I know but come on what’s up with the pressure ?

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                It's not tough.

                Look them in the eyes like a human being and say "sorry dude, not today".

                Alternatively just carry small amounts of cash to give to them.

                Another alternative is asking them if they would like some food instead.

                No matter what you do, keep in mind you are very likely a small step away from homelessness yourself.

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                We tried giving one guy food in Chicago. He kind of wrinkled his nose and said something like "i prefer joe's" or something. Can't remember the exact place. Safe to say that our generosity got stifled on that journey after that.

                Am not from states.

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                  This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                  I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                  I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                  Its tough.

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                  I live in a big city of an decently big country. Here we got many of them particularly around large train stations. I never give to them any money.
                  Reason is - this country has a safety system in order to help people in need like this. If homeless people go against the rules (crime, drugs, abuse of the system) they get kicked out of the shelters. They get help with all sorts of things there and if they really are in dire situation and want to get back to normal life, they would get all necessary help they ever need and more. If they got kicked out, I believe they didn't really wanted to get back their normal life. And in some cases, I see just youth smoking weed on the side of the street and begging for money. They are not in need, they have families and homes. They just collect money for weed. Fuck those guys, really.

                  I give money to street performers all the time. This brings life and color to the city.

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                    This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                    I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                    I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                    Its tough.

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                    i gave them once, only realized they were lying about thier injury, never again. i just dont have money, but some homeless people can be aggressive/passive aggressive if you dont give them money.

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                      This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                      I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                      I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                      Its tough.

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                      Absolutely ignore them. I will forever vote and say we need to house them and feed them, idgaf. But give them handouts from my poor ass, directly? Hellll no. Negative reinforcement through omission. Begging is not the way. I would rather them rob places and start murdering politicians. This is an entire society problem, not a me problem.

                      And before anybody calls me selfish, no - it's an issue of ability over scale. I can kill myself to absolutely help and try to fix one person, but it would cost me so, so much. And just like in a zombie game, if there's only one zombie, you can melee or whatever. But if there's a horde, you fix that shit with bigger guns or bring the crew.

                      What that means is, I'm not rich enough to fight zombies, so I'm walking away. And homeless people can ask me all they want, and I absolutely hold the social right to ignore them like any other person out there begging me to donate to their patreon or watch their ads or whatever they need in society to survive.

                      Fix the fucking system. Sorry, not sorry, but, capitalism, as it is right now, is not the way.

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                        They trade ramen noodles for contraband in prison so it's not complete fiction

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                        I think they use ramen as an actual currency in prison, because they cant hold real cash, so that makes sense to me. Outside of prison its probably not something to worry about.

                        In any case you are doing more good than most of us.

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                          This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                          I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                          I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                          Its tough.

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                          I usual walk around with some small cash, change, etc, and definitely give it out as I'm walking until I'm out.

                          I just keep a mental note of it and skip the next coffee or odd lunch date, so my budget evens ~ out.

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                            This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                            I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                            I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                            Its tough.

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                            Just shake your head no and keep walking. Anyone asking for change in the street is used to rejection

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                              Just shake your head no and keep walking. Anyone asking for change in the street is used to rejection

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                              A simple "no thank you" works for me if I feel that I need to say anything.

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                                There was a time in my adult life that I was stealing water from a construction site so I could care for my ill partner after losing work and family members. I did claw out and found new work and a whole new life, but I was down that far and worse and you wouldn't know it by looking at me now. I'm sure I was more than dirty at the time from having to walk everywhere. I uber'd a lot, but you can't do that every day.

                                I came very close to asking strangers for help. I guess I did to some degree, I did ask for help on online forums specifically for that purpose, got very little response... but why does that seem "better" to so many people? Is it the eye-contact with someone you could become? Is it fear that you don't feel the sympathy you think you should if you look at them?

                                Is it harder to smile at a poor or homeless person than someone getting out of their nice car? Why or why not?

                                These are all better questions that readers should ask themselves than try to answer here for the reactions of strangers. We really don't ponder enough and it's breaking everything at the seams.

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                                Thanks for sharing. I guess some things in life you only start to acknowledge when you experience them yourself. Getting out of sync with society seems to be one of them.

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                                  This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

                                  I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

                                  I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

                                  Its tough.

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                                  Someone isn't entitled to your money. Just say no and move on. Don't specify. They aren't entitled to know if you have money on your person. They aren't entitled to know if you can or can't spare it. One word no. No and move on with your day. No isn't sending them to prison camps. No isn't voting against benefits that ensure people at least get fed if not sheltered. Say no even if you DO donate to charities that help people. 50 50 that person is living off begging until he's got enough to buy the next hit or the next bottle.

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                                    Unless they take Apple Pay I can't give them any money even if I wanted to.

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                                    Like ten years back, in a Finnish abandoned soap factory turned into hackerspace, I jokingly asked if I can pay by card for something silly. My jaw almost dropped as this private individual whips out a legit card reader and says yes. The devices are somewhat common now but that was my first interaction with it

                                    Idk what hoops they'd require you to jump through, maybe you need to be incorporated depending on the country or so, but I'd not be too surprised if they start supporting this sooner or later

                                    Think I've also heard about proposals or trials to transfer from phone to phone. What will be hard to not sound like a lie is that I don't have any sort of banking app on my phone... The future is bright ^^

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