Dead reddit theory
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That was so long ago, it's just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was "pro feminist" and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it's this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn't notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can't police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn't need much curation.
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hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn't it?
That’s where we are now
So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I'd do, do I take it you're out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?
If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say "punch a Nazi."
Answers no questions, half-quotes a statement to make a point, completely ignores getting caught using AI to write your comment then edits out the giveaway. Alright mate go ahead you're doing a great job out here.
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Random Rant:
I feel like reddit died after they banned all the "unmoderated" communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.Can anyone tell me what the story is with the "u/..... hasn't posted yet? Are post histories hidden by default or something?
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Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.
While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.
Reddit was nice when it was a niche...
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I check back here often but I still much prefer Reddit over Lemmy. I’m still using a modded Apollo though.
I did too, but /u/me got banned also so I'm here a lot more. And bsky.
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Lemmy has more personal interaction but it's still a deeply niche culture made up largely of younger white males who really, really like linux and while I align with leftists, it gets tiring seeing leftists and tankies bickering with each other rather than real debates between people with actual divergent ideology. While reddit also has it's own demographic problems, there are places where you can get a broader range of ideas and diversity.
Can I just say, without invalidating your underlying concerns, that this place truly gets better when you start blocking communities and individuals, and doing so knee-jerk if necessary with no thought or remorse.
The tip of the identity iceberg doesn't need to come into play, really. I've learned that in this world there are contributors and detractors. There are those who add, and those who take. There are good faith contributors, and there are misanthropes who aren't happy until everybody else isn't happy.
I don't care what race or age a person is, if there's an MS article and the only thing they do is show up to vandalize the comments section with the single word Linux... I'm blocking the fuck out of 'em immediately. I block people confidently braying opinions where you need but scratch the surface to see how ill-considered they are. I feel no duty to correct these people or listen to another word, its not my job to fix them. Blocked. Show up in a legitimate policy discussion just to bash out fuck [politician]"? Blocked - dialogue at the level of a surly grade 8 student isn't my jam.
Would I want a friend IRL that just says whatever's convenient at any time, regardless of how germane, factual, useful, or genuine? Or would I avoid them IRL because they're a nightmare? That internal reflection guides a lot of my block decisions. Also why I find it so easy.
To summarize my novella, I think this is how I made my Lemmy experience more sane, because it was borderline intolerable at first. To the plus, it only took about 20 or 30 blocks to realize that almost all of the toxicity arose from a small batch of select kooks.
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Answers no questions, half-quotes a statement to make a point, completely ignores getting caught using AI to write your comment then edits out the giveaway. Alright mate go ahead you're doing a great job out here.
All your questions sounded rhetorical to me. I responded to what I had something to respond with.
caught
hahahahahahaha
edits
Are you OK? I haven't edited any of my comments on here. Is the AI in the room with you now?
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Can I just say, without invalidating your underlying concerns, that this place truly gets better when you start blocking communities and individuals, and doing so knee-jerk if necessary with no thought or remorse.
The tip of the identity iceberg doesn't need to come into play, really. I've learned that in this world there are contributors and detractors. There are those who add, and those who take. There are good faith contributors, and there are misanthropes who aren't happy until everybody else isn't happy.
I don't care what race or age a person is, if there's an MS article and the only thing they do is show up to vandalize the comments section with the single word Linux... I'm blocking the fuck out of 'em immediately. I block people confidently braying opinions where you need but scratch the surface to see how ill-considered they are. I feel no duty to correct these people or listen to another word, its not my job to fix them. Blocked. Show up in a legitimate policy discussion just to bash out fuck [politician]"? Blocked - dialogue at the level of a surly grade 8 student isn't my jam.
Would I want a friend IRL that just says whatever's convenient at any time, regardless of how germane, factual, useful, or genuine? Or would I avoid them IRL because they're a nightmare? That internal reflection guides a lot of my block decisions. Also why I find it so easy.
To summarize my novella, I think this is how I made my Lemmy experience more sane, because it was borderline intolerable at first. To the plus, it only took about 20 or 30 blocks to realize that almost all of the toxicity arose from a small batch of select kooks.
I fully appreciate the advice, and I have been hammering the block button, but every time I do a small part of my faith in humanity chips away like a crumbling old statue the represented a forgotten empire.
I am sad that so many people are unthinking, unfeeling, or deeply unserious where it matters. But here we are, forced to prune and further the atomization of our failed world because there is no alternative. There's no arguing nor reasoning with people who interact with others only to address their inner feelings and not with care or consideration that we share an objective reality we have to agree on.
With AI and immersive experiences, this is all going to get even worse.
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slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it's this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn't notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can't police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn't need much curation.
It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more "engagement" and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
It's the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It's line going up at the expense of everything we've worked the last several thousand years to build. I'm happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
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I wonder if discord shuts down due to lets say its predator problem, will this be a library of alexandria type event? Obviously wed attempt to grab as much as we can before the "library" burns down, but how? To my understanding every server owner would have to install a bot to grab all of that data themselves.
Someone please tell me im wrong and why because I hate this.
No, you're absolutely right. Discord is incredibly impermanent. Besides the lack of being able to search for things or split conversations into separate threads for every topic because it's a chat tool, not a forum, as soon as a server disappears, everything hosted on that server goes as well (as far as end users are concerned. I'm sure Discord can pull stuff from their backend).
We need a return of niche forum communities and the like for the sake of the preservation of information.
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Your account has been banned.
If you ever make another account it will be automatically banned because our app requires your fucking MAC address.
Not true. They followed me through an extra Gmail I made but made a temporary email and have been fine for close to two months.
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Random Rant:
I feel like reddit died after they banned all the "unmoderated" communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.It’s sad to see sites like Reddit and Imgur dying. They used to bring me so much joy.
At least Fark is still holding steady, although photoshop contests just aren’t as fun as they used to be.
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The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad's are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump's health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence...
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
I wrote a very fiery letter that I'm sure a bot deleted about how it cheapened the phrase "violence" to have it be slung casually around at speech their shareholders don't love.
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That was so long ago, it's just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was "pro feminist" and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Read 'liked to participate' as mostly lurked in their spaces. I shouldn't have to change accounts to look over the fence. Especially if it's because you're being a lazy mod. I know my comment history. I said something like "I'm so sorry" once and that got be banned.
I shouldn't have to justify myself when I didn't break a communities rules and a community shouldn't have the right to police my content consumption when it doesn't impact that community.
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slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it's this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn't notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can't police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn't need much curation.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah. The mod infiltration by bad actors really sucked. What was it like 50 people that were basically modding entire site? Then you have unmodded communities that get banned and you can't create a new one because the other one was banned. It's like the catch-22 they use to keep communities in check.
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A week or so ago, I got permanently suspended by an auto mod. I posted some link it didn't like, I think it was this one: https://welcometothemachine.co/ which is about how all the filthy rich CEOs sit on each other's boards of directors, which is a bit ironic because this site is just a compilation of posts from one user that appeared on Reddit five years ago. I still read Reddit, but I don't care about participating.
wrote last edited by [email protected]reddit takes a much harsher stance against links now. people have to "refer to the site, rather than dropping the link.
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It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more "engagement" and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn't a bug, it was a feature.
It's the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It's line going up at the expense of everything we've worked the last several thousand years to build. I'm happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
They sure love to admin now. The silence of Reddit admin drove me crazy. Especially when I tried to run my own subs.
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The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad's are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump's health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence...
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
92 people control about 500+subs on reddit, you can guess which one they are, and the ones less likely to get banned.
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So you gave up on it like a decade ago?
Pretty much. Damn...2015
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I got banned when I connected to a VPN endpoint (ProtonVPN). Instant, permanent, unappealable ban. 13-year-old account. Sole moderator of a couple subs
Probably for the best though. Screw Reddit
wrote last edited by [email protected]reddit has been coming down hard on vpn users since last year. its futile one they shadowban you, rarely i see peoples ban get lifted on the shadowban sub, apparently and pretty obvious, The user said reddit "made a mistake because thier filters were misconstruing your words for somethng offensive", i doubt reddit admins have time to look at every appeal, thats why i believe they ignore most of them, if not all accounts that are part of the multiple accounts from a single users.
