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1 month 13 days left...
EDIT: And to not make this bland: I pretty much gave up on life, once I realized I won't get anything that a young adult would have. I'm just an expendable meat robot that is not even seen as human. I get blamed for everything that goes wrong, even though I have minimal wiggle room. So, good luck to everyone. AI is about to make just being human not enough.
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::: spoiler I've encapsulated my gigantic response so as to not further blow up the formatting of this thread.
Yep, the baby boom happened in many places... the term 'baby boom' and 'baby boomer' and then 'boomer' are very much US-centric if you look through newspapers, academic publications.
Also... you're telling me your French speaking parents referred to them as 'baby boomers', as in... a loan word, from English, as opposed to something that might more naturally arise from French?
bébé d'expansion?
Granted, I do not speak French, that particular guess may be wildly unrealistic in some way, but I would think that general linguistic and etymylogical concepts apply generally.
https://www.etymonline.com/fr/word/baby boom
Assuming google translate is doing a decent job of translating that to English for me, I am fairly confident this literally says the French term "baby-boom(er)" is a loan term, from English, specifically from the US.
Anyway, I am not saying that people should not be free to use or adapt terms from other languages, that would be stupid and also impossible to enforce, especially stupid coming from an English speaker such as myself, with English essentially being a bastard mutant step child of at least three different languages smashing into each other.
I would be unable to go to the karaoke bar, sing a song about a latent gestalt consciousness, grab a bahn mi to much on, and then further discuss the relative 'lingua franca' status of varying languages of the world, all whilst doing my best to stave off ennui.
What I am saying is that criticizing my US Centric definition of a US Centric term on the grounds that the definition itself is too US Centric... that is stupid.
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Is 'millennial' a commonly used generational cohort word present in many languages right now?
Of course.
However... I would argue my definition still holds.
If you can remember 9/11 happening, generally, you are some kind of a millenial, you would identify as such, you would use that term.
Yep, 9/11 happened to the US.
And it was the biggest news story on the planet at the time.
Governments around the world reached out to the US with formal announcements of sympathy.
Newscasters and print media ran the story for days, weeks, in many countries.
It was a pretty big deal, the world hegemon having its financial center directly attacked.
Markets all the world freaked out, to varying degrees.
And I could casually argue that generally, roughly, though of course not as directly traumatizing to non USAmericans, it was a bigger deal in countries that were culturally/economically connected to the US, and thus inhabitants of those countries were/are more likely to later use a fairly direct equivalent of 'millennial' as a generational cohort term... as a loan word, from our media's intial popularization of the term, to decry our avocado toast habits and whichever stagnant and poorly operated line of shitty franchise restaurants we are apparently responsible for murdering.
Why not use the local language word for 'millenium' as a basis, instead of adopting one from English?
But to further nuance this, I am sure you would point out that the English word millennial is of French origin, and you would be correct.
So sure, this obviously makes more sense as a wholly and truly French word, we English speakers did after all, more or less borrow something like 70% of our vocabulary from French.
But then we can refer back to my actual proposed definition:
I bet you do actually remember 9/11 being on the TV, in the papers, being discussed, to at least degree, if you are a millennial, who speaks French, and was roughly 5 years old or older, in France, when it happened.
If I am wrong about that, please let me know.
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yes, I fully agree with the point about remembering 9/11 as a millennial, and wasn't commenting about that, I just disagree about the one where you said generational terms are a US-only thing
And yes, we use the English term for baby boom, it's a loan word, just like you say "croissant" (or at least, attempt to, haha).
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Yes, I fully agree with the point about remembering 9/11 as a millennial, and wasn't commenting about that, I just disagree about the one where you said generational terms are a US-only thing
And yes, we use the English term for baby boom, it's a loan word, just like you say "croissant" (or at least, attempt to, haha).
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Hah, my mangled attempt at correct pastry pronounciation is something like:
Kwah-san(t).
I am sure that is a bit butchered by proper French standards though, haha!
Unfortunately, if you try to pronounce loan words properly, by the rules of the language they come from, most Americans (very wrongly imo) consider this to be you acting pretentious.
On that note:
I have spent a good amount of time doing karate and so have spoken with a good dreal of native Japanese speakers...
Karaoke is not carry-oh-kee.
It is kah-rah-oh-ke.
Karate is not kara-tee.
It is kah-rah-tay.
... I frankly have no fucking clue how we managed to fuck up karaoke as bad as we did.
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The knees are fucked. The eyes are getting destroyed. The back is complete mess. The new hairs growing everywhere suck. White hair randomly appear is great, not... What even is health...
At least we are getting close to it ending.
If you're experiencing that amount of physical pain in your 30s, you need to exercise more, my friend.
I had 2 years of inactivity due to an intense workload and my physical health plummeted. Have been going on regular walks and eating better the past two months and I feel like I de-aged from a senior citizen to my actual age.
Also, stretching helps A LOT when it comes to stiffness and soreness. Don't underestimate the wonders of stretching.
You don't have to live in misery like that. Would can work on it, my friend!
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90s kids were born in the 80s and EARLY 90s. You're thinking of 90s babies. They would be 00's kids.
They would be ’00s* kids.
You got it right the first couple of tries
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Then you remember the 90s as a kid, which makes you a 90s kid.
Like the other person said, when you are born has nothing to do with it. Spending the most formative years of your childhood in the 90s is what makes you a 90s kid. Sounds like you did, so you qualify.
This is meaningless gatekeeping imposed by older people on younger people. If you were a child in the 90's you were a 90's kid. The validity of your lived experience doesn't depend on your current ability.
By OP's reasoning people who no longer remember their childhood no longer count as a kid for their decade. Eventually everyone will be dead and then according to the OP no one will have lived either.
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in the ‘90s*
*in the 90's
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*in the 90's
Repeating it doesn’t make it less wrong
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Repeating it doesn’t make it less wrong
Wrong to who? You?
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Repeating it doesn’t make it less wrong
If you're going to be doing this what style guide are you using? Why did you choose that one? Why is it the most useful option? You've made an entire account about enforcing apostrophe usage but don't have any sources or explanation to back it up on your bio.
I thought it would be fun to try 90's since that looks more appealing than '90s. We don't use this ' to cut off preceding symbols in anything other than 'twas which also looks wrong.
Then I thought It was useful that you were doing this because imposing whatever the current most used trend for apostrophes would help facilitate communication between the greatest number of English readers and writers. It would be democratic even.
Then I realized I had no idea what the current most used trend for apostrophes even was and without any sources no way of knowing if your style was anything resembling that. (I like 90s now btw.)
So then I looked up who even made grammar anyway and it turns out a lot of people but a couple individuals stand out.
https://www.wordgenius.com/who-actually-created-all-these-grammar-rules/Xr0yWBPAJQAG8w-n
The First Grammarian
Modern English grammar can be traced back to William Bullokar, a printer from the 16th century. Back in 1586, Bullokar wrote the Pamphlet for Grammar, which we now know as the first English grammar resource. His grammar resource compared English to Latin. He also created a phonetic 40-letter English alphabet, addressing the 40 different phonetic sounds he identified. His goal was to increase literacy in England and make it easier for foreigners to learn the language.
Robert Lowth is one of the more notable grammarians who built upon Bullokar’s work. He wrote A Short Introduction to English Grammar in the late 18th century, and this book formed the groundwork for many other grammarians as they standardized English grammar.
Lowth’s book became known as one of the first examples of prescriptive grammar, or one establishing the rules for how grammar should be used. By contrast, descriptive grammar simply explains how people actually use grammar.
Creating a System
Lowth wasn’t the only one who tried to standardize grammar. Many others preceded him and many more followed. British schoolmistress Ann Fisher was the first published female grammarian and an early user of an all-purpose pronoun. She wrote A New Grammar in 1745, shortly before Lowth’s work came on the scene, and her book was released in 30 editions over 50 years. Fisher’s work was one of the first to detail modern grammar practices, many of which are still in use today.
That all being said, what's the style guide or grammar reference book every English writer on lemmy should refer to?
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How are your fourties???
Ow my back. Is my hair thinning? Why can't I get a good night's sleep? Oh look, a sale on wall stain removers!
