Too soon?
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Too soon?
Nah he's cold now, it's all good.
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It is possible to be empathetic about the manner of his death and the suffering it has caused while still being happy he is gone.
But you wouldn't know it from about 95% of the comments on Lemmy.
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Tell that to France.
Yeah well that's a better example than the American revolution anyway, but I guess I view revolution against government as being a little different than murder of a citizen exercising their right to free speech. The French revolution also was fighting to establish a democracy, wherein people could freely exchange ideas and contribute to the shape of government. Democracy doesn't work if people murder each other instead of discussing things and using your vote to shape government. Violence must be prohibited and overwhelmingly condemned or it devolves into a zero sum game. This isn't a victory for the left, this is a loss for society, further degradation of our republic.
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Shhh, do you hear that? That's the bullet headed to my neck.
If America, and the taxes we pay for them to kill, kills innocent civilians, and most of us go along everyday not giving a fuck then why should we give a single fuck about this?
Shit my paid taxes paid less for this than more monstrous murders. There's less blood on my hands from this murder than the Israel Gaza war or any other war. Basically my tax payments have paid for more heartless shit than this. Yet that's all cool and this is supposed to not be okay?
Look what you made me do, I've opened a bottle of very good pinot to ponder these things.
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yeah that was...very not gruesome? i've seen people hype it up but, like, that was nothing? unless you're afraid of blood i guess. most death i've seen in my life was way worse.
You shouldn't be so proud of being unbothered by watching a person bleeding out.
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It comes across to me as they simply lack empathy for other "kinds" of people. If you actually felt the same pain and empathy when watching the video of Kirk get merked, you should feel that a thousand times over when seeing a thousand videos of the IOF massacring children, many sniped in the same way Kirk got merked, and then you should look upon Kirk in disgust for supporting that and dehumanizing the Palestinian people. But the fact is these people don't. They don't see other "kinds" of people different from them as in fact "people." Let's be real, they don't feel the same kind of empathy for Palestinian fathers dying as they do a white fascist dying. They constantly mock the deaths of minority groups like trans people. They suddenly have empathy and demand pacifism and valuing the sanctity of all life when a white fascist dies, but are silent in every other case.
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Charlie Kirk was evil through and through. Kindly leave this platform if this isn't completely sarcastic.
Whoever shot him is evil. And everyone who encouraged it. Like this platform.
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Have you even sent your thoughts and prayers yet?
Two in the thoughts, one in the prayers.
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Have you even sent your thoughts and prayers yet?
I'm not religious. He won't even get those. And not many thoughts, either.
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We’re never better off with the Dem fascists in charge either. They’re two sides of the same coin.
If we want the law to mean anything, and we want it used to hold people accountable, over 90% of sitting congresspeople and senators can now be prosecuted for aiding genocide, which they did in violation of domestic & international laws. That would certainly set a tone and precedent for the future.
Well I think Michael Borrego Fernandez was better off before the Nazis took power
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Why do god-given rights need to be protected?
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That was not an easy watch.
I have been desensitize to it because my twitter timeline has been flooded with toddlers having their skulls hollowed out by the IDF. A live-streamed holocaust has kind of made violence seem not that abnormal to me, so it comes across as strange when politicians cry about people advocating for violence, when literally most of them support industrial-scale genocide of hundreds of thousands that I see dying on a day-to-day basis. That alone has changed me from a "violence is inherently bad" type mofo to a "I would celebrate if most of these American politicians were [redacted]" type mofo. Why should I care if a person who loves mass murder of children dies? It's called karma.
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That was not an easy watch.
Yeah, the video was too shakey and then that guy walks right in the way.
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Whoever shot him is evil. And everyone who encouraged it. Like this platform.
I don't condone violence, but the world is certainly better with that evil fuck dead.
Again, leave this platform. I have no more time for someone who fucking thinks that piece of shit resembled anything like 1% of a Christian. He had zero compassion and intentionally led a campaign of hatred and bigotry. That's his legacy.
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory...
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend
Well he was Charlie Kirk, so it might have been nice for his kids to see
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You guys don’t understand. I am so sick of seeing calls for violence. I’m so sick of seeing coldness toward violence.
Someone is going to want to retaliate. That’s what the fuck violence brings. Unless you win completely, and the only kind of motherfuckers who win completely are people who exterminate everyone who opposes them.
Is that what the fuck we want?
Do we want to see important figures in a left-wing movement assassinated? Someone is going to be upset enough to fire a gun at someone you care about.
Violence begets violence.
I can’t stand reading this shit anymore. I really can’t.
A bunch of fucking keyboard warriors stoked as shit when someone gets killed. Never ever fucking smart enough to think about what comes next. Well, get ready for it. Someone is going to be angry enough to shoot back, that is a promise. Go look at a fucking history book. Nobody takes this kind of thing sitting down.
If you think anything good is going to come from this, you are a goddamn fool.
Leaders in a movement you care about are about to be assassinated in retaliation by some moron with a fucking gun.
I’ve got to get the fuck away from all this noise. I’m half tempted to fucking throw my phone in the creek and never look back.
Y’all want to kill each other and then cheer when someone is fucking murdered, fine.
Goddamn.
I fucking hated Charlie Kirk. If he had died naturally, I’d be the first one to piss on his fucking grave. Some idiot made a martyr, that’s what they did. Curious motherfucking kids who never heard anything he said will now listen to everything he ever said. You can’t kill an Ideology by killing the people who espouse said ideology.
I just want to beat my head into a fucking wall. I’m so fucking burned out. Fuck anybody who is OK with bullets traveling through the flesh of any of their fellow men. Go into a field and fire the guns yourselves against other idiots who want to fire guns, the rest of us are sick of your fucking violence.
Someone is going to want to retaliate. That’s what the fuck violence brings. Unless you win completely, and the only kind of motherfuckers who win completely are people who exterminate everyone who opposes them.
Did we win completely in 1945?
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I was getting my haircut and FOX was on the TV when I found out he died from the shooting. Barbershop is Vietnamese owned and the barber was busy on his phone when I get there. I've been there many times without FOX on the TV and hope they just put a random news channel on.
Fox was showing the reaction from various congress-critters and they got to AOC. AOC's message was this another example of we we need some gun control in a much better way than I am relaying. When FOX went back to the host he immediately said she was wrong. HIPAA laws should be relaxed so problematic people could be found before they commit crimes.
We shouldn't use people's medical records to Minority Report them
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Things Trump do to stop people from talking about Epstein...
This is some tin foil hat shit solely because Trump is too stupid to do any elaborate planning like this
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I actually looked up that meme template before making this, but then I realized that's not Charlie Kirk. It's another, though at least alive, conservative commentator Steven Crowder. Who, I imagine, is probably questioning his career choices today.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Kirk was under a "change my mind" banner as he said his last words "gang violence"
He's also espoused that we have to accept a certain amount of deaths so we can keep the 2nd amendment.
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Now finish the quote
I think all of his quotes are finished, now.
