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You can see who upvoted and downvoted a post by viewing it in friendica.

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    #67

    My guess is accidentally hitting the button while scrolling, and too lazy to change it.

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    • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

      Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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      I think lemmy instance admins can see this too. Doesn’t even have to be a friendica instance

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      • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]

        Yes, but that's kind of my point?

        if downvotes are public, the admin of your instance can see who is downvoting you and then they can take action. If the downvotes are coming from an instance that hides the real user for every vote, you and the admin are SOL.

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        Oh I see, you were talking about a hypothetical where all instances hide their votes and so no one knows who is voting on anything.

        My assumption was that these vote records would remain transparent on most instances because the instances that hide their votes just get defederated, because those are always going to be instances where trolls hide.

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        • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

          A malicious hosting server could use fake points to blast any message to the top of everyone's feeds until manually banned or defederated

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          Yes, that's happened before. They were sending a very large number of votes, so it was immediately obvious. Even a couple dozen from an unknown instance will be noticed, when an admin sees it and says "huh I haven't heard of that instance" and when they look there's nothing there.

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            Cant you just defed with them?

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            #71

            If you can identify all of their instances, yes.

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              #72

              The first isn't really interesting, and the second is clickbait. I wouldn't say there is no reason for downvoting them.

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              • skulblaka@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                A malicious hosting server could use fake points to blast any message to the top of everyone's feeds until manually banned or defederated

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                I'm not sure how giving every server access to the votes solves that.
                The malicious server can make fake users to pump up votes. your server admin has to notice, then check the vote logs, then see what's happening and defederate them. That's pretty much what you described in your scenario, anyways.

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                • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                  Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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                  #74

                  Neato. I don't approve of other people getting to hide vote ratios from us.

                  It should be an option to enable seeing the exact amounts in Lemmy.

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                  • steal_your_face@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

                    I think lemmy instance admins can see this too. Doesn’t even have to be a friendica instance

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                    #75

                    Yeah. It's kind of lame how they can see it but we don't.

                    There should be an update that allows users to choose for themselves whether than can see the exact numbers.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Yes, after all other servers need this information in order to prevent double voting, you can't just have servers sending each other information "somebody upvoted this" and also tell when servers are allowing users to vote more than once.

                      So upvotes and downvotes aren't actually private, never have been, some servers may display them publicly even if most don't.

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                      #76

                      They should be.

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                      • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubR [email protected]

                        I wanna say it was built into Lemmy originally as well but they removed it from the FE

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                        #77

                        It’s in lemmy but only available to instance admins

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                        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                          Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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                          #78

                          I wish I could see what scummy lemm.ee mods removed my comments and got me banned

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                            Yes, after all other servers need this information in order to prevent double voting, you can't just have servers sending each other information "somebody upvoted this" and also tell when servers are allowing users to vote more than once.

                            So upvotes and downvotes aren't actually private, never have been, some servers may display them publicly even if most don't.

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                            Hashing exists for this use case

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                            • B [email protected]

                              I wish I could see what scummy lemm.ee mods removed my comments and got me banned

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                              you can, names are shown in other frontends like phtn.app.

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                              • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                                Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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                                The whole concept of the Fediverse as social media is that all the data is public. Stop acting like these servers are giving out private data.

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                                • draconic_neo@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                  you can, names are shown in other frontends like phtn.app.

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                                  #82

                                  Thanks but doesn't work if you're site-banned.

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    Nope just server

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                                    If image embeds aren't cached by your server they can be abused to gain IP, but that's a hack, it's not intended.

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                                    • draconic_neo@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                      If image embeds aren't cached by your server they can be abused to gain IP, but that's a hack, it's not intended.

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                                      You can set a Lemmy server to proxy image requests

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        I'm not sure how giving every server access to the votes solves that.
                                        The malicious server can make fake users to pump up votes. your server admin has to notice, then check the vote logs, then see what's happening and defederate them. That's pretty much what you described in your scenario, anyways.

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                                        It's way easier to notice and defed when you can see these fake usernames

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                                        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                                          Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.

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                                          #86

                                          this is an icky issue because lemmy sends votes with empty addressing, so remote instances should count them but not show them to anyone. however mastodon (and *key) sends likes with empty addressing too, but considers them public. lemmy is (surprisingly) right here and should request that the rest of fedi respects the protocol and hides stuff based on its addressing. maybe open issues on mastodon and friendica

                                          also this issue probably exists when seeing lemmy posts on any microblogging instance

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