Sounds crazy but... maybe you shouldn't delete Facebook just yet
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You could PM the mods on Reddit, tell them you're worried about the direction of the platform, and ask if they want to join the effort/let them know the door is open. That way there would probably be little drama.
As for moderation, I don't think it would be a huge challenge. The biggest hurdle is in producing content to get the community going and to stick with it, which would honestly be too much work for me personally.
Regarding Bluesky: On Mbin (successor of Kbin) these days it's possible to post "microblogs" directly into communities, and have them appear organically in Bluesky as well. I have tested this a bit, but never posted anything interesting this way. Should try with an image post to a community.
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what the primary difference is between Mastadon and Bluesky?
Mastodon is in the fediverse (like Lemmy, which you're using), while Bluesky is not.
It's also way older than Bluesky (2016 vs 2023). So recency bias might have played a role.
It seems like bluesky is gaining much more traction than mastadon ever did, based solely on how I literally hear nothing about it ever. If I am wrong on mastadon not being widely adopted, do tell, I am genuinely asking.
You're not wrong at all there. Mastodon currently only has 886k monthly active users, while Bluesky is in the millions despite its much shorter lifetime.
The fediverse is just unpopular in general. Mastodon is the most popular fediverse platform though, Lemmy has only 48k monthly active users.
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Bluesky is not truly decentralized, in the same way that Mastodon is. Bluesky is effectively centralized and is still controlled by an american corporation and could in principle be bought in the same way that Twitter was. Lastly, Bluesky made their own protocol instead of using the already-standard ActivityPub protocol. That's why a lot of people are skeptical and recommend Mastodon instead.
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Too late, (un)fortunately
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Here’s my problem: I don’t want the general user base of Facebook to move here.
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I may have used Facebook as a bit of a provocative example here... But even on Facebook, there are certain groups that could enjoy the fediverse.
The fediverse should be for everyone.
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Seems difficult to choose a server to join to engage on Mastodon. I want to support and choose a Canadian server, but it seems like sparse pickings, most of them have less than 100 people on them. But is that even a bad thing? I vaguely understand the emphasis that what server my account is created on doesn't particularly matter. But lets say that small volunteer hosted server goes kaputt, what happens to my account or my posts? And I see that these servers can "defederalize" from other servers. Does that mean that these guys I don't know can influence what I see and am exposed to on the fediverse? Feels like a really easy way to create a echo chamber for myself, if used maliciously. It feels like I should find a trustworthy server to create an account on.
Its also a little confusing seeing servers for specifically Ottawa, and other canadian cities, while some are just Canadian in general, and some are not even geographic but topic-based servers. How does the server I make my account on influence what my user experience will look like?
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Its something to sleep on, thats for sure. Maybe I could shoot the idea of posting the lemmy-alternative community on their sidebar, and let naturally curious users find it on their own.
But would it be weird to, for example, host such a primarily US and international community on the lemmy.ca website? I would want to host it on the .ca one because I unabashedly simp for my country, but I think it would confuse a lot of people why their community is hosted by Canadians if it is not explicitly a canadian community. Is there maybe a history-based lemmy server that would make more sense to host under? Is that something I could host even? That could be pretty sick and impactful for the history professional community I feel. But the best server hosting experience I got is running a minecraft server, ngl. Super advanced stuff, I know.
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Hell no. Get off of that shit now.
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I heard about Lemmy.ca from R/ehbuddyhoser. Not going back.
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Even trolls, Nazis and other actively malicious people?
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Your heart is in the right place but you don't know about how Facebook works. It artificially makes people not see alternatives while giving them all the reasons to stay. Worse, those who aren't as secure in their views might go back. Facebook is pure poison.
Forget it. Delete your accounts and move. Talk to people IRL and tell them where to find you.
Because if you can be found on Facebook you will be a reason to stay.
delete Facebook and xitter account now
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Unfortunately, I say yes. And hear me out first please.
The Fediverse in my eyes should be free. Free to have instances for everyone, including those we disagree with. Because in my opinion, the right to say and think what we want is very important (absolute free speech). And unfortunately, i think that means everyone should be allowed to say what they want. HOWEVER, free speech does not mean free of consequences. The option of federating with those groups or not is up to each community and fortunately I think many would not be okay with including them.
I'm always open to hearing input as these are personal thoughts so by all means add to or let me know the errors in my thinking. Thanks!
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i honestly regret deleting my xitter account. not because i actually want to use it, no way in hell, but i got curious recently and saw that my username was retaken by someone else, so now any old links there go to them instead of me. would have been much better to delete all of my tweets and change my display name and bio to point people to mastodon. maybe even set up automated tweets telling people switch. even if i got banned for that, that at least prevents anyone else from squatting on my old id. oh well, you live and you learn!
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"General" Facebook user base is not a thing.
Every social media has its own varied bubble on them.
Even Fediverse has its own bubble of malice people.
I still use Facebook because all local community on them (people never heard Reddit or even Lemmy), and people are generally nice to each other. Shares hobby and stuff just like Lemmy and the entire fediverse.
Still, I still regularly on Facebook to recommend people to join local Misskey and Mastodon instance.
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I was thinking that lemmy.ca needs a ehbuddyhoser on here. It is insane how that sub is the most patriotic canadian subreddit on reddit aside from buycanadian lmao
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I deleted my facebook like 8 years ago. I don't understand why people still use social media like that. It makes no sense to me.
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I deleted Facebook when the boomers got on.
Best decision I've ever made.
(Did miss some birthdays though)
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I’ve been posting about it periodically.
I’m pushing the “buy Canadian” angle by promoting Fedecan, the non-profit running Lemmy.ca and now Pixelfed.ca.
Also, reminding people that American companies are making money off your data, and these servers are Canadian owned social media, in a way.
I still have no followers on Pixelfed, but
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You're doing your part