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  • wise@feddit.ukW [email protected]

    Core 2 Duo

    • 1.2" black/white e-paper screen

    Core Time 2

    • 1.5" 64 color e-paper screen

    Am I missing something?

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    Epaper and eink are different. Eink consumes no power when idle, and epaper consumes almost no power.

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      Okay so now you're not only acting in bad faith but following me around to harass me. You've been blocked. Goodbye.

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      I randomly came across you and saw the tag I left you. Lol

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      • undone@lemm.eeU [email protected]

        Don't love the closed-in ecosystem but Garmin watches with MIP display do almost all you just said.

        • Touch screen + also Buttons for 100% touch-free interaction
        • Battery life of around 3 to 4 weeks (depending on what you are doing)... more with the Solar models
        • Media control is there, but don't really use that

        Podcast ad skipping sadly not a thing.

        Price might be an issue though. The top end models with all the whistles come at a smartphone flagship price point.

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        The Garmin Instinct is what I switched to when my Pebble died. Recently upgraded to the Fenix.

        You can absolutely skip ahead through ads with the music controls. Automating it would be the job of the app.

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          It reads to me like he's saying that if you expect 5+ years without maintenance if it's more than $100, you should look at a different product.
          The top comments are someone saying that after five years they needed to repair it due to battery failure, and the founder saying the repair process is the same.

          Five years is longer than the average lifespan of a liIon battery. Expecting to be able to skip repairs that long is unreasonable for a $150 product.

          It reads like the founder actually giving realistic expectations. A $150 product will likely need repairs to last longer than five years, and you'll be disappointed if you expect otherwise.

          Can you point to a similar product that costs about as much that fits your criteria?

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          It doesn't read to me like you will have to replace the battery, it reads to me like he's saying don't expect the device itself to last >5 years.

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            Google recently open sourced Pebble and today, Repebble has put some of the watches up for preorder.

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            Pebble sounds cool but i really dont like square watches(except the retro casios and gshocks) and now its owned by google so thats shit as well.

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              Pebble sounds cool but i really dont like square watches(except the retro casios and gshocks) and now its owned by google so thats shit as well.

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              ...and now its owned by google so thats shit as well.

              Google acquired it back in 2021, this move to open source it is a good thing.

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              • abfarid@startrek.websiteA [email protected]

                The watch featured a 32-millimetre (1.26 in) 144 × 168 pixel black and white memory LCD using an ultra low-power "transflective LCD"

                The problem is that e-paper is a category of displays, abnd some companies label reflective LCDs as "e-paper". Which is subjective (and I personally heavily disagree with that categorization, cause then LCD clocks and Gameboys have "e-paper" displays, too).

                But in the comment I responded to it was said Pebble has "eink" display, which is categorically wrong, as that is a very specific proprietary technology, which is e-paper in traditional sense, like the ones in Kindles.

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                I believe these are sharp’s memory in pixel lcds. They’re much lower power than something like the game boy screen as each pixel retains its state and doesn’t need to be refreshed from the controller constantly. I actually like these little screens quite a lot. Worse pixel density and don’t look quite as good as e-ink when static, but still really Low power and can refresh way faster and smoother when needed.

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                  The Garmin Instinct is what I switched to when my Pebble died. Recently upgraded to the Fenix.

                  You can absolutely skip ahead through ads with the music controls. Automating it would be the job of the app.

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                  You are right. I think I read that wrong. I thought automatic segment skipping like YouTube SponsorBlock. You definitely can fast forward using buttons.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    I'm still very confused about why we needed PebbleOS for this. It's been like 10 years and no one could come up with any comparable software? They whipped up the hardware design in a few months.

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                    It has the entire ecosystem of apps.

                    They didn't need it, it was just the tipping point

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                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                      he just wants a new pebble

                      I'm sure that's what he wants you to believe.

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                      I had a Pebble Time Steel and it was the best watch I've ever head. I want another Pebble. So does Eric. So I gave him money to make me one.

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                        Pebble sounds cool but i really dont like square watches(except the retro casios and gshocks) and now its owned by google so thats shit as well.

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                        I think Google just owns the software because the product page for these watches say the guy invested his own money to get these produced.

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                        • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                          I had a Pebble Time Steel and it was the best watch I've ever head. I want another Pebble. So does Eric. So I gave him money to make me one.

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                          Yeah, I get that. My question is why Eric (or literally anyone else) didn't just re-make the Pebble (or similar) under a different name at any time in the last 10 years? Why did they wait for the OS to be open sourced instead of just making a new one?

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                          • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                            It doesn't read to me like you will have to replace the battery, it reads to me like he's saying don't expect the device itself to last >5 years.

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                            How does that read to you like him saying it's not replaceable?

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                              Google recently open sourced Pebble and today, Repebble has put some of the watches up for preorder.

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                              No NFC !!???? Whyyyyyyyyyy

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                                How does that read to you like him saying it's not replaceable?

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                                Have you tried reading the rest of the comments?

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                                  Pebble sounds cool but i really dont like square watches(except the retro casios and gshocks) and now its owned by google so thats shit as well.

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                                  Google dumped the Pebble OS code on GitHub when this whole "rePebble" thing (not Rebble) started. Now there's a new phone app coming out soon (or out now, depending on your platform and abilities) that handles old and new Pebbles and modern phone platforms.

                                  None of this is from Google.

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                                    I believe these are sharp’s memory in pixel lcds. They’re much lower power than something like the game boy screen as each pixel retains its state and doesn’t need to be refreshed from the controller constantly. I actually like these little screens quite a lot. Worse pixel density and don’t look quite as good as e-ink when static, but still really Low power and can refresh way faster and smoother when needed.

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                                    I'm not criticizing the screens, they are ok and I loved my Pebble Time Steel until the battery swelled and popped off the screen. I'm just saying that calling these e-paper is a deceptive marketing strategy.

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      I'm still very confused about why we needed PebbleOS for this. It's been like 10 years and no one could come up with any comparable software? They whipped up the hardware design in a few months.

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                                      Because good software is hard. The PebbleOS is a gem, and no, no one could in 9 years.

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        Yeah, I get that. My question is why Eric (or literally anyone else) didn't just re-make the Pebble (or similar) under a different name at any time in the last 10 years? Why did they wait for the OS to be open sourced instead of just making a new one?

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                                        Methinks you underestimate the complexity.

                                        And all the other watch makers I've looked at are not doing, or even considering, what Pebble did.

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                                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                          Yeah, I get that. My question is why Eric (or literally anyone else) didn't just re-make the Pebble (or similar) under a different name at any time in the last 10 years? Why did they wait for the OS to be open sourced instead of just making a new one?

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                                          Some reasons:

                                          • It's a lot of work no one wants to do given there are half-decent proprietary alternatives
                                          • Eric wasn't sitting twiddling his thumbs
                                          • The corporate landscape wasn't nearly as hostile to users until the last few years
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