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Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll

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    I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

    That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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    But the technology to fake it clearly could? Idiots...

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      On the positive side, I knew a couple where she was an evangelical Christian home-schooling their kids and he was a massive conspiracy theorist, who was suspicious of "mainstream medicine" and didn't believe in the moon landings. Over time, with the rise of the far right, QAnon, the antivax movement and Trump, these people have realized they want nothing to do with those people or their insanity. She left the church and stopped preaching at people, they sent their kids to regular schools, they all got their vaccines, and he abandoned his conspiracy theories and now accepts that he was an idiot about the moon landings and laughs at his former self. So it is possible to travel in the other direction.

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      Now that is the kind of reality I want to believe in! Those people should share their story and try to 'save' (oh the irony) some more of the crazies.

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        They're already tired of winning!

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          Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!

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            The reasons for opposing becoming the 51st state were loss of Canadian identity, culture and sovereignty at 81 per cent, the difference in health care systems at 68 per cent, concerns over safety with the differences in gun laws and the legal system at 60 per cent, and concern over U.S. politics and governance just below with 58 per cent.

            Fellow canucks looking out for our material conditions.

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              Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

              So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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              I'm hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.

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                There shouldn't have been a poll in the first place

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                  why are they still writing these articles? do they think we changed our minds since last week? we said no the first time, you can stop asking us every 5 days. pretty sure most of us would rather die in a concentration camp than accept american rule

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                    Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

                    It's not news.

                    If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

                    This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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                      Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.

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                      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                        I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.

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                        This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks' Culture series of novels so compelling.

                        Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is "fully automated luxury communism" many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.

                        A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney's novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.

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                          Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.

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                          Except the people who would secede have control over the government. They want power more than anything else so they are going to force the entire country to be Jesusland.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

                            So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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                            It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.

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                              No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

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                                Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

                                So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots.

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                                20% Russian bots/Elon bots

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

                                  It's not news.

                                  If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

                                  This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

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                                  It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?

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                                    This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks' Culture series of novels so compelling.

                                    Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is "fully automated luxury communism" many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.

                                    A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney's novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.

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                                    I love that about the Culture novels: they are socially coherent. Banks is very keen on telling us about the psychology of this utopian society.

                                    I once tried some Delaney but dropped it as psychedelic hippie scifi. I hope I wasn't unjust in doing that, but afair it was from that time. Maybe it even was Triton. It was all confusion ("tripping") and exploring a completely desire-based, erm, exploration.

                                    Recently I read (and barely managed to finish) Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination, which seems to fit into a similar category (Beatnik scifi?). It had way too many shortcomings, plus it was an old translation that only managed to make the latent racism/sexism more prominent. But it was also very inventive and captivating.

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                                    • N [email protected]

                                      I can believe it, I know one of them. They're the incel, manosphere idiots, the 4chan, never trust the government, flat earther alien conspiracy theorists who think they're smarter than everyone else because the mainstream media always lies and they get their news from - that 'altmedia' you might see and think who the fuck is watching this shit??! YouTube channel etc. It's them.

                                      That stuff is spreading into the mainstream too. A young person in my family recently told me they don't believe in the moon landing. Why? It doesn't seem like that technology could exist back then. Lol.

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                                      Yeah not only in the USA for sure. Here in Europe too. What irks me most is that it's often people who claim to be unpolitical. But they aren't really, they just don't bother to inform themselves and react on gut feelings instead. Those gut feelings can be dumb anger or dumb "Peace & Love", but if they lead to someone saying that "Putin does not seem like he wants to harm Europe" it doesn't really matter anymore, it's just dumb. What can you say to such people? "Inform yourself"?

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                                        Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

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                                        • luci@lemmy.caL [email protected]

                                          No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

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                                          Fr - who, with the minimum amount of decency, would want to be part of this?

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