Elon Musk sells X to his own xAI for $33 billion in all-stock deal
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Phew. Just in time to avoid fraud charges on the loan.
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What's the point? Is it some sort of tax scheme?
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You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?
Yeah, he yells at people to go faster and ignore industry best standards or be fired.
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$33 billion, 3/4 what it was valued in 2022 when he bought it.
Honestly I'm surprised it's still worth that much. (or rather, that's he's succeeded in claiming it's worth that much).
It dropped a lot lower than that but spiked back up once he became the leader of America
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Who did that‽ It's so beautiful, it should be posted all over Xitter lol
Just confirming Xitter is pronounced “shitter” right?
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What's the point? Is it some sort of tax scheme?
Restructuration of ownership and debt so that if Tesla fails he get to keep his assets in his other non public companies. At one point Tesla stock was leveraged to buy Twitter, i think that Elon shielded his assets because Tesla is way too exposed.
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Well, not really. Twitter was his own private property that he bought with borrowed money secured against his Tesla shares. xAI on the other hand is financed by investors whose money he used to bail himself out at a price he made up himself since Twitter is no longer publicly traded. So this is, in my opinion, misuse of investor funds; the picture would be true if xAI used how own money to do this, but no.
On one hand,I think this is serious fraud. On the other, my understanding for anyone investing into his companies is very limited, there are so many red flags on so many levels.
To understand Musk/Trump investors, imagine the investment to be an NFT.
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Just confirming Xitter is pronounced “shitter” right?
That's how I've been pronouncing it in my head when I read it.
I still say "Twitter" though because that and the gulf of Mexico are the only things I feel are okay to deadname.
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That's how I've been pronouncing it in my head when I read it.
I still say "Twitter" though because that and the gulf of Mexico are the only things I feel are okay to deadname.
Until the Gulf of Mexico becomes sentient and tells me it prefers to be called the Gulf of America, I will continue to call it what the rest of the world calls it.
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“X” is also 88 in ASCII.
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Funny that people take this news as some kind of technological fusion between companies and not housekeeping of the dipshit's personal finances.
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The incumbents will go broke.
Who do you mean with that? Companies like OpenAI or Anthropic, or do you also include the likes of Google/Amazon/Microsoft?
With the former I can see it, but the later also profit from providing the infrastructure (and have other profitable business), so imo those will be just fine.
I definitely see Google/Amazon/Microsoft shedding a huge amount of market cap when the time comes to write-off the 100s of billions they invested the past two years.
They just don't have any feasible path to recouping those investments.
Sure, they'll never go fully broke, that's just a nice word for emphasis.
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“X” is also 88 in ASCII.
Coincidence? I think not!
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Who did that‽ It's so beautiful, it should be posted all over Xitter lol
I made this one. Thanks for the compliment!
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“X” is also 88 in ASCII.
I did not know these things, but makes sense…
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Well, not really. Twitter was his own private property that he bought with borrowed money secured against his Tesla shares. xAI on the other hand is financed by investors whose money he used to bail himself out at a price he made up himself since Twitter is no longer publicly traded. So this is, in my opinion, misuse of investor funds; the picture would be true if xAI used how own money to do this, but no.
On one hand,I think this is serious fraud. On the other, my understanding for anyone investing into his companies is very limited, there are so many red flags on so many levels.
How to get a lawyer to investigate......
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I definitely see Google/Amazon/Microsoft shedding a huge amount of market cap when the time comes to write-off the 100s of billions they invested the past two years.
They just don't have any feasible path to recouping those investments.
Sure, they'll never go fully broke, that's just a nice word for emphasis.
I actually think Google is going to win this one, they're the only ones making their own hardware to run their own models. Open ai are starting down that road but they're years behind.
When you look at the pricing of all the AI companies, Google's is so much cheaper (orders of magnitude) and they're not having to pay Nvidia billions to do it.
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Well, not really. Twitter was his own private property that he bought with borrowed money secured against his Tesla shares. xAI on the other hand is financed by investors whose money he used to bail himself out at a price he made up himself since Twitter is no longer publicly traded. So this is, in my opinion, misuse of investor funds; the picture would be true if xAI used how own money to do this, but no.
On one hand,I think this is serious fraud. On the other, my understanding for anyone investing into his companies is very limited, there are so many red flags on so many levels.
yes its a perfect setup for a payoff.
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Is this so the loans secured with X stock can't be called in, forcing Elon to sell the collateral to pay back the loan?
Sure seems like a bullshit business move to retain control of Tesla.
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xAI's Partners:
A16Z, Blackrock, Fidelity Management & Research Company, Kingdom Holdings, Lightspeed, MGX, Morgan Stanley, OIA, QIA, Sequoia Capital, Valor Equity Partners, and Vy Capital, among others.
So Saudi's etc now officially own Twitter.
