German security officials believe the Kremlin is laying the groundwork for a potential large-scale conventional war with NATO by the end of the decade
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Honest question. If Russia nuked Krakow, would America retaliate with nukes? Would France? England?
I don't think so. It's not even clear nato would declare conventional war.
Mutually assured destruction only works for countries with nukes. Am alliance is no real deterance.
What did Kraków do to you
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Honestly, I believe Europe needs to go on the offensive, we need a single unified offensive against Moscow with the intent of crippling the KGB and arresting Putin. They are both too dangerous to be left to their own devices.
The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.
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The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.
Oh it does exist just not officially. Someone has to help everyone fall after windows
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Well China is ready to make bank
China doesn't want to war between Europe and Russia.
It would force Europe to rapidly develop military capability and when Europ inevitably won that war, it would still have a vast military and might be feeling a bit touchy about dictatorships. China likes the world as it is right now, they have a lot of long-term plans and Russia suddenly seating to exist would mess all those plans up.
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The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.
Officially.
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Yeah? And if you're wrong we're fucked. To be clear it's not that you or I could do anything about it. We're just either fucked or going to have the world's biggest laugh at the Russians.
What's the alternative alternative? Roll over and let Russia invade? Then we're all fucked anyway. Might as well take the chance of standing up instead of dying lying down.
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Nah dude killing people is God's department Satan just smokes gay weed
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Nah dude killing people is God's department Satan just smokes gay weed
TBF I explicitly said "Not Satan."
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What's the alternative alternative? Roll over and let Russia invade? Then we're all fucked anyway. Might as well take the chance of standing up instead of dying lying down.
Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just mad.
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Oh it does exist just not officially. Someone has to help everyone fall after windows
Sure, but why not use the names of the actual current Russian intelligence services? FSB, GRU, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_agencies_of_Russia
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There's no way the US military would side with Russia, even if ordered to.
I agree. People underestimate how our perspectives of war have shifted tremendously in the past century. The ideological shift towards xenophobia and nationalism in recent years is undeniable, but it lacks the context of the world prior to the world wars.
War was the default state. It was expected. Not just colonization, oppression, or revolution. No. Prior to the 20th century, humanity had experienced a nearly constant stream of full-scale, all-out, nation-making and nation-breaking wars.
In the modern day, American "wars" happen in deserts and distant places. There is a level of cognitive dissonance in the public and military consciousness, a separation of "us" vs. "them", a facade of bringing "justice and peace". There is, always, a one-sidedness to the engagement. Even when America "loses", it has no fear of a counterattack, because in every case it is merely "protecting democracy", as opposed to actually being at war.
The implicit biases against empathizing with other people - especially impoverished non-white refugees - have kept the nation from properly grappling with its history of tyranny. Many people have always believed in the greatness of the Land of the Free, simply because they could physically and emotionally distance themselves from the victims of "freedom".
An American invasion of Europe would completely shatter the Union. Full stop. No amount of xenophobic lies can prepare the troops and civilians fast enough for such a dramatic cultural and ideological shift. The rhetoric will ramp up, the core supporters will rabble rouse, and the soundbites will be bloodthirsty, but the actual bloodthirst won't be there among the rest of the population or the military.
War was easy to sell to Germany because it was billed as the only way out from the under the oppressive burdens of the last war. War was in the public mind. It was living memory of everyone else on the planet banding together to screw over Germany in particular.
War will not be so easy to sell here. Americans literally identify themselves as European Americans. They're italian and irish and german. They want to visit, they want to find love, they want to dine in Paris and party in Dublin and see the Vatican. American soldiers are literally stationed all across the region partying with the locals.
We don't remember war as a culture. We remember oppression, and "police actions", and Vietnam. But we don't remember world war, and we can't imagine London or New York falling. That will all change if we attack our friends, and the cultural and ideological whiplash would tear the nation to pieces.
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American tanks
At least nato will know all the weaknesses.
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Honestly, I believe Europe needs to go on the offensive, we need a single unified offensive against Moscow with the intent of crippling the KGB and arresting Putin. They are both too dangerous to be left to their own devices.
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Elsewhere on Lemmy today;
Russia has depleted its tank stocks: the industry is not covering combat losses
Both of these cannot be true.
Soon to be seen on the battlefield: Reinforced, armored attack-Ladas, with turrets mounted on the roof.
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Nuclear exchange. Yeah it's possible they nukes were maintained about as well as their tanks. It's also possible that we're entirely fucked.
And so are they, Europe has nukes too and don't think that the US and China will just sot back and relax
If anyone sends nukes, wete ALL dead and those that survive will wish they were.
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First... I'm not reading all that, but are you aware that there are 2 congressional districts up for re-election this week to replace members who accepted cabinet positions (e.g. Mike Waltz). They were +20 red districts, both of them. Now they are competitive. Trump has also withdrawn his appointee for UN ambassador because of fears they would lose her seat (also a very secure Red win previously).
It's not November anymore, and there's been a torrent of things to change people's minds in the meantime.
First… I’m not reading all that
So... seeing as I wasn't actually talking to you, beginning like that I'd like to know how the fuck you actually thought you'd get any message across beginning like that.
A good chunk of the post had absolutely nothing to do about the red/blue states or voting so go off I guess.
However
but are you aware that there are 2 congressional districts up for re-election this week to replace members who accepted cabinet positions
And how did that work out? Oh. People still voted Red? Double digit victories? I'm shocked I tell you. shocked.
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What did Kraków do to you
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France will because it's article 42 of the EU.
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