Finland votes: Social Democrats take the win as Finns Party (far-right) support collapses
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Luckily, the far-right here in Finland is less extreme than some of their counterparts in Europe. Finns Party members aren't literal Nazis (or at least most of them aren't), and some media outlets, including Yle, usually refuse to label them as far-right at all. Personally, I'm of the opinion that in the context of the Nordics, being far-right doesn't necessarily mean you're full-blown Nazi and that's why I editorialized the title a bit.
Not a "full-blown Nazi", and not even "far-right" by the public service broadcasting, in the nordic countries also includes people who were nazi skinheads, wrote celebratory opinions about literal Nazis, photographed themselves with literal Nazis, joined Nazi parties started by literal Nazis, sings Nazi songs, are personal friends with well recognized Nazi music groups, as long as you deny it ever happened. Just to give some context.
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Under the Far Right government in Finland, homelessness increased.
Now, maybe Finland can get back to having real public options available for housing without asking if anyone 'deserves' to have a roof over their heads.
The Far Right, no matter the country, always succeed in turning everything good about civilization into shit exclusively for themselves. If we ever have another national election in the United States, I don't think the Far Right fascists will be able to win anything.
(and that, admittedly, is an incredibly hopeful view)
Trump has won again, despite how he acted last time.
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Trump has won again, despite how he acted last time.
Yes due to harris and the Democrats abandoning their base to cater to trumps.
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The official English party name used to be 'True Finns' but at some point someone probably figured out that sounds a bit elitist; Like everyone not supporting them is not a true Finn?
Somebody probably accused them of the "No true Finn" fallacy.
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Yes due to harris and the Democrats abandoning their base to cater to trumps.
Trump's base used to be the democrat base. Blue collar workers getting screwed by corporations. Democrats are polling so low because their actions led to this group being overlooked.
Even being lied to feels good after you've been taken for granted / ignored. At least you feel seen.
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Finland headed to the polls on Sunday to elect thousands of councillors in a range of local and regional bodies.
The Social Democrats took a big win in the municipal elections, taking nearly one in four votes nationwide to push the National Coalition Party of Prime Minister Petteri Orpo into second place.
In the county council elections, for 21 regional bodies that arrange social and healthcare outside Helsinki, the SDP also topped the poll. The Centre Party recorded a good result in its rural heartlands to secure third spot.
Government parties did poorly, with all but the NCP losing support compared to the previous municipal elections in 2021. Turnout in the municipal election was 54.2 percent, while the county elections saw 51.7 percent of eligible voters cast their ballots.
The dual vote for municipal and county councils caused logistical issues for election officials, with counting slower than usual for Finland, where large numbers vote in advance and results are usually clear within a couple of hours of polls closing.
The Finns Party saw support collapse compared to the last municipal election, with the party nearly halving its vote from four years ago. They lost support in several towns that are seeing hospital services cut back as part of the central government's savings drive.
The trump effect worldwide.
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As a German, I can assure you that this strategy only works in Finland. Forming a coalition with Nazis brought Germany the Nazi dictatorship and World War II.
He's talking about when they're still small (e.g. 1928) Not forming a coalition when they've grown to a significant portion of the seats (1930 onwards).
In most countries, the established parties are so reactionary to the prospect of a far-right party growing that they normally fight to exclude such a party from even the tiniest bit of power. This drives the narrative of a corrupt undemocratic system full of people desperately clinging to power. Once that starts it's only a matter of time before enough people believe it, elect a dictator, and only then understand what undemocratic looks like.
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Trump's base used to be the democrat base. Blue collar workers getting screwed by corporations. Democrats are polling so low because their actions led to this group being overlooked.
Even being lied to feels good after you've been taken for granted / ignored. At least you feel seen.
I still somewhat struggle to explain to myself why he won.
I've considered it being a protest vote, not one with a clear goal or particular signal in mind, but just as a F you to whomever was in power, but that doesn't explain why people worship him.
I've considered it being a result of conspiracy theories and his ability to use those to his advantage by occasionally partial recognizing them and playing along with the story, but that doesn't explain why over half the country would vote for him.
I've considered it being a consequence of Moscow trying to destabilize the US by supporting a candidate that is easily bought or manipulated. Although there definitely has been some interference, believing it to be effective to an extent of swaying the elections seems almost like wishful thinking at this point.
I'm still not entirely sure what it was.
Maybe you're right and it's really that simple. -
I still somewhat struggle to explain to myself why he won.
I've considered it being a protest vote, not one with a clear goal or particular signal in mind, but just as a F you to whomever was in power, but that doesn't explain why people worship him.
I've considered it being a result of conspiracy theories and his ability to use those to his advantage by occasionally partial recognizing them and playing along with the story, but that doesn't explain why over half the country would vote for him.
I've considered it being a consequence of Moscow trying to destabilize the US by supporting a candidate that is easily bought or manipulated. Although there definitely has been some interference, believing it to be effective to an extent of swaying the elections seems almost like wishful thinking at this point.
I'm still not entirely sure what it was.
Maybe you're right and it's really that simple.Harris was the "more of the same" candidate. If you saw things getting better, that sounded good. If you're in pain, that's more pain.
There's a lot of America in pain.
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Finland headed to the polls on Sunday to elect thousands of councillors in a range of local and regional bodies.
The Social Democrats took a big win in the municipal elections, taking nearly one in four votes nationwide to push the National Coalition Party of Prime Minister Petteri Orpo into second place.
In the county council elections, for 21 regional bodies that arrange social and healthcare outside Helsinki, the SDP also topped the poll. The Centre Party recorded a good result in its rural heartlands to secure third spot.
Government parties did poorly, with all but the NCP losing support compared to the previous municipal elections in 2021. Turnout in the municipal election was 54.2 percent, while the county elections saw 51.7 percent of eligible voters cast their ballots.
The dual vote for municipal and county councils caused logistical issues for election officials, with counting slower than usual for Finland, where large numbers vote in advance and results are usually clear within a couple of hours of polls closing.
The Finns Party saw support collapse compared to the last municipal election, with the party nearly halving its vote from four years ago. They lost support in several towns that are seeing hospital services cut back as part of the central government's savings drive.
Throwing your hat in with Trump is absolutely toxic worldwide, and yet MAGA just doesn't fucking get it.
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The trump effect worldwide.
The Screw Trump effect worldwide
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Under the Far Right government in Finland, homelessness increased.
Now, maybe Finland can get back to having real public options available for housing without asking if anyone 'deserves' to have a roof over their heads.
The Far Right, no matter the country, always succeed in turning everything good about civilization into shit exclusively for themselves. If we ever have another national election in the United States, I don't think the Far Right fascists will be able to win anything.
(and that, admittedly, is an incredibly hopeful view)
It's almost like everything all the time always gets worse under any type of far right governance.
And yet people keep falling for it.
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I still somewhat struggle to explain to myself why he won.
I've considered it being a protest vote, not one with a clear goal or particular signal in mind, but just as a F you to whomever was in power, but that doesn't explain why people worship him.
I've considered it being a result of conspiracy theories and his ability to use those to his advantage by occasionally partial recognizing them and playing along with the story, but that doesn't explain why over half the country would vote for him.
I've considered it being a consequence of Moscow trying to destabilize the US by supporting a candidate that is easily bought or manipulated. Although there definitely has been some interference, believing it to be effective to an extent of swaying the elections seems almost like wishful thinking at this point.
I'm still not entirely sure what it was.
Maybe you're right and it's really that simple.It could be a bit of them all; his base isn't large enough on its own but, together with those who wanted to protest vote and those looking for relief from the economy and those who hated the idea of voting for a black woman, they may've all been enough to get him over the finish line.
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I still somewhat struggle to explain to myself why he won.
I've considered it being a protest vote, not one with a clear goal or particular signal in mind, but just as a F you to whomever was in power, but that doesn't explain why people worship him.
I've considered it being a result of conspiracy theories and his ability to use those to his advantage by occasionally partial recognizing them and playing along with the story, but that doesn't explain why over half the country would vote for him.
I've considered it being a consequence of Moscow trying to destabilize the US by supporting a candidate that is easily bought or manipulated. Although there definitely has been some interference, believing it to be effective to an extent of swaying the elections seems almost like wishful thinking at this point.
I'm still not entirely sure what it was.
Maybe you're right and it's really that simple.There's also that Biden basically sabotaged the democrat campaign by stepping down only at the last minute, and then proceeding to pressure Kamala to not distance her campaign from the Biden campaign
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It's almost like everything all the time always gets worse under any type of far right governance.
And yet people keep falling for it.
Unburdened by any attachment to reality, they can paint a very appealing rhetorical picture.
Fascism did really well the last time around until Hitler got to do stuff, too.
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Trump has won again, despite how he acted last time.
He did weirdly less than he could have in his first term. Most Americans did not directly suffer the way they and the rest of the world are now.
It's also a two-party system, so it's not super easy just to vote out one ideology.
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Trump's base used to be the democrat base. Blue collar workers getting screwed by corporations. Democrats are polling so low because their actions led to this group being overlooked.
Even being lied to feels good after you've been taken for granted / ignored. At least you feel seen.
maybe you should consider why. its not because people miss cheney or care about the border. but running candidates like 'nothing will change' and 'I cant think of anything different i'd do' might not be a good strategy.
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I still somewhat struggle to explain to myself why he won.
I've considered it being a protest vote, not one with a clear goal or particular signal in mind, but just as a F you to whomever was in power, but that doesn't explain why people worship him.
I've considered it being a result of conspiracy theories and his ability to use those to his advantage by occasionally partial recognizing them and playing along with the story, but that doesn't explain why over half the country would vote for him.
I've considered it being a consequence of Moscow trying to destabilize the US by supporting a candidate that is easily bought or manipulated. Although there definitely has been some interference, believing it to be effective to an extent of swaying the elections seems almost like wishful thinking at this point.
I'm still not entirely sure what it was.
Maybe you're right and it's really that simple.those are a bunch of rationalizations. working americans have been pissed for decades and things have not improved. its why everything is going to go tits up for the rest of the decade.
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Unburdened by any attachment to reality, they can paint a very appealing rhetorical picture.
Fascism did really well the last time around until Hitler got to do stuff, too.
I don't get it, why can't people around the world vote in left wing anti-establishment parties when the status quo gets frustrating?
Are the radical left really that unsexy and boring?
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I don't get it, why can't people around the world vote in left wing anti-establishment parties when the status quo gets frustrating?
Are the radical left really that unsexy and boring?
"for the people" is hard and requires work to solve some very tough problems that were put in our system many many years ago, that requires people to work to better the lives of others without seeing immidiate betterment themselves.
"fuck those other people" is a very very easy solution to a problem I may or may not have just made up.
