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  • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

    Shipleft, shipright, fixed

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    Can't 'fix' hundreds of years of tradition

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      Because port and starboard refer to the left and right side of the boat. If you are facing the stern your left would be starboard and right would be port.

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        Can't 'fix' hundreds of years of tradition

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        Nah, we can.

        Traditions are just peer pressure from dead people.

        So fuck em.

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          Because port and starboard refer to the left and right side of the boat. If you are facing the stern your left would be starboard and right would be port.

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          bort bort

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            Because the other response was less than helpful, and I was curious myself, I found this great page!

            It explained a few types of markers and how to interpret them

            https://www.boaterexam.com/navigationrules/aids-to-navigation/

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            There’s a buoy that is supposed to mark where channels join (not shown in the link), but they’re not in use in my area. The channels are a bit like a side road joining up with a curve in the main road, except being a channel the buoys aren’t exactly dense. So, in my case, i can travel in a straight line and the markers switch sides. I remember that one, but there’s another three that are similar in nature that I don’t get to frequently and have to think about. The added fun is that the are is a bunch of channels in a pile of rocks (islands) in a body of water; it’s not like I’m travelling up or down a river.

            I have charts, but that would be cheating. also worth observing that the area is not dangerously busy.

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            • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

              Shipleft, shipright, fixed

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              But a Shipwright is a job.

              You're gonna steer the ship right into some innocent dude!

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                But a Shipwright is a job.

                You're gonna steer the ship right into some innocent dude!

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                Port is the place where you park the boat. Starboard would be the side where the stars are. None of these words are specific enough.

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                  it makes me a little irrationaly upset that we have left and right, both one syllable words

                  but the naval version of left and right, is a one syllable Port, and a two syllable Starboard

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                    Because port and starboard refer to the left and right side of the boat. If you are facing the stern your left would be starboard and right would be port.

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                    And to remember the whole thing: "Star" comes from steer, goes back to old ships which had their rudder and till tied to the side at the aft and specifically, when looking forwards, to the right as people tend to be right-handed. Thus, steering-side == right if you're looking forwards.

                    "Port" because that's the side the port is on if you land without risking damaging the rudder. Originally it was "backboard" because that's the board (== side of ship) that's (often) in the helmsman's back, English changed it at some point while everyone else kept it. The terminology goes back to at least Old Norse, probably earlier, that's just the earliest that's attested.

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                      Port is the place where you park the boat. Starboard would be the side where the stars are. None of these words are specific enough.

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                      If only one side is made to be connected to the port, then that's pretty specific.

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                        Because port and starboard refer to the left and right side of the boat. If you are facing the stern your left would be starboard and right would be port.

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                        My son is also named Bort

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                          for the same reason we have forward (forward) and aft (back)... oh wait

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                          Funny thing is cars still use right and left (atleast in US) often. Somethings driver vs passenger side. Driver vs passenger doesn't work everywhere for every car in the world like it does with boats.

                          What also might be funny is driver vs passenger could be seen like port and starboard in the future if we get self driving cars. There would be no designated driver side of a car, and every side is a passenger. Just like boats nowadays can port on either side because there are no steering oars needed.

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                            Imagining a ship at port works for me, since then i can remember which side faces towards the port

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                            Does that not depend on which side the port is on?

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                              Fo you have any mnemonics for aft, fore, stern and bow?

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                              In German After is a scientific name for anus, so that's the back of the boat. Hope that helps

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                                Does that not depend on which side the port is on?

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                                Nope, it’s one of the few things that everyone in the world has managed to standardize on.

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                                  If only one side is made to be connected to the port, then that's pretty specific.

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                                  fair enough

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                                    "Left" and "Port" both have four letters. "Right" and "Starboard" both have more than four letters. That's how you remember them.

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                                      Fo you have any mnemonics for aft, fore, stern and bow?

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                                      I remember "bow" from that scene in Karate Kid where Mr. Miyagi shook the boat and made Daniel fall in the water.

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                                        "Left" and "Port" both have four letters. "Right" and "Starboard" both have more than four letters. That's how you remember them.

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                                        port and starboard both have an r in the word, for right. that's how I remember them.

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                                          Not a captain, so i can?

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                                          you and the captain make it happen.

                                          (just don't be captain save a ho)

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