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  • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    What's the license?

    Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

    https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

    geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG A isveryloud@lemmy.caI mathemachristian@hexbear.netM carcel@lemmy.mlC 5 Replies Last reply
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    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

      What's the license?

      Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

      https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

      geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG This user is from outside of this forum
      geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG This user is from outside of this forum
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      • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

        What's the license?

        Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

        https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

        A This user is from outside of this forum
        A This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        Not familiar how is that bad?

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        • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

          What's the license?

          Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

          https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

          isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
          isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          Seems correct to me. It was paid for by the US public, using US public funds, it belongs in the public domain.

          I also wish they had GPL'd it, but I'm not sure this would be appropriate here.

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          • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

            Seems correct to me. It was paid for by the US public, using US public funds, it belongs in the public domain.

            I also wish they had GPL'd it, but I'm not sure this would be appropriate here.

            jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            A copyleft would absolutely be appropriate here.

            It was paid for with public funds.

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            • A [email protected]

              Not familiar how is that bad?

              jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              It means that any company can take that code, modify it (as would be required every year per IRS tax changes), and resell it without being required to publish the source code changes.

              What many European countries are doing is requiring the government to publish code under a copyleft license. That would allow companies to also benefit from this code to make their own tools (which they could also sell), and it would require them to publish the source code of their improvements.

              Basically copyleft legally ensures collaboration. Public domain does not.

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              • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                A copyleft would absolutely be appropriate here.

                It was paid for with public funds.

                isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
                isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                CC0 = Everyone owns it, no one can claim rights to it

                Copyleft = No one owns it, the code owns itself and claims rights to itself

                Since everyone paid for it, everyone owns it.

                If no one paid for it, or if a single owning entity is feeling benevolent, then copyleft is appropriate.

                I assume it would be difficult to get the consent of every US taxpayer to license this as copyleft, I believe CC0 (or proprietary, unfortunately) is the rightful default when in this situation. It's debatable whether any government code should be proprietary, save for deployment secrets.

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                • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                  CC0 = Everyone owns it, no one can claim rights to it

                  Copyleft = No one owns it, the code owns itself and claims rights to itself

                  Since everyone paid for it, everyone owns it.

                  If no one paid for it, or if a single owning entity is feeling benevolent, then copyleft is appropriate.

                  I assume it would be difficult to get the consent of every US taxpayer to license this as copyleft, I believe CC0 (or proprietary, unfortunately) is the rightful default when in this situation. It's debatable whether any government code should be proprietary, save for deployment secrets.

                  jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  CC0 = gift to corporations at the expense of taxpayers

                  Copyleft = everyone owns it and all derivatives, even from corporations

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                  • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                    CC0 = gift to corporations at the expense of taxpayers

                    Copyleft = everyone owns it and all derivatives, even from corporations

                    isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
                    isveryloud@lemmy.caI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Trust me, I get the feeling.

                    I'm only arguing from a legal standpoint, where it's more appropriate to have CC0.

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                    • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                      Trust me, I get the feeling.

                      I'm only arguing from a legal standpoint, where it's more appropriate to have CC0.

                      jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Nah, that law was written before copyleft licenses were widespread. There are exemptions for contractors and some groups like USPS.

                      I'm saying that law is wrong, and it needs to be changed.

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                      • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                        What's the license?

                        Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

                        https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

                        mathemachristian@hexbear.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mathemachristian@hexbear.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        Why's that bad?

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                        • mathemachristian@hexbear.netM [email protected]

                          Why's that bad?

                          jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          It means that any company can take that code, modify it (as would be required every year per IRS tax changes), and resell it without being required to publish the source code changes.

                          What many European countries are doing is requiring the government to publish code under a copyleft license. That would allow companies to also benefit from this code to make their own tools (which they could also sell), and it would require them to publish the source code of their improvements.

                          Basically copyleft legally ensures collaboration. Public domain does not.

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                          • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                            It means that any company can take that code, modify it (as would be required every year per IRS tax changes), and resell it without being required to publish the source code changes.

                            What many European countries are doing is requiring the government to publish code under a copyleft license. That would allow companies to also benefit from this code to make their own tools (which they could also sell), and it would require them to publish the source code of their improvements.

                            Basically copyleft legally ensures collaboration. Public domain does not.

                            mathemachristian@hexbear.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mathemachristian@hexbear.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            Ah thanks thats not as bad is I was fearing but not great

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                            • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                              What's the license?

                              Edit: Ugh, it's licensed CC0 public domain. Assholes.

                              https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file/blob/main/LICENSE

                              carcel@lemmy.mlC This user is from outside of this forum
                              carcel@lemmy.mlC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              The law requires public domain for US Government works.
                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_works_by_the_federal_government_of_the_United_States

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