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is there a way to de-paywall 404media.co?

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  • G [email protected]

    Still a wall between people clicking the link and the content.

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    #6

    Which is also a wall between bots scraping the articles.

    Support independent media.

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    • N [email protected]

      Which is also a wall between bots scraping the articles.

      Support independent media.

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      #7

      No it isn't, they are letting bots scrape the articles just like every other news site for that sweet, sweet SEO. Why do you think the archive.is link has the full article?

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      • G [email protected]

        No it isn't, they are letting bots scrape the articles just like every other news site for that sweet, sweet SEO. Why do you think the archive.is link has the full article?

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        #8

        This is literally why these sites have the free paywall. Some get bypased. In this case, I suspect 404 gave archive dot org access because they rely so heavily on that site for researching articles.

        But. Regardless: if you think a journalism outlet is so evil and are scamming everyone... Maybe just ignore them because you clearly don't think they are worth your time.

        Also: republican love people like you who do everything possible to attack independent journalism.

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        • N [email protected]

          This is literally why these sites have the free paywall. Some get bypased. In this case, I suspect 404 gave archive dot org access because they rely so heavily on that site for researching articles.

          But. Regardless: if you think a journalism outlet is so evil and are scamming everyone... Maybe just ignore them because you clearly don't think they are worth your time.

          Also: republican love people like you who do everything possible to attack independent journalism.

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          #9

          This has no relevance to politics and I'm not attacking anything by saying forcing sign ups is a barrier to content or that you're wrong about it having anything to do with bots, you dork.

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          • N [email protected]

            This is literally why these sites have the free paywall. Some get bypased. In this case, I suspect 404 gave archive dot org access because they rely so heavily on that site for researching articles.

            But. Regardless: if you think a journalism outlet is so evil and are scamming everyone... Maybe just ignore them because you clearly don't think they are worth your time.

            Also: republican love people like you who do everything possible to attack independent journalism.

            davel@lemmy.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            archive.is/archive.today is not archive.org, and they did it without permission, because they never get permission.

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            • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              Its called an authwall

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              • foxglove@lazysoci.alF [email protected]

                is there a way to de-paywall 404media.co?

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                #12

                The way I usually do it is by flagging the article and asking the mods to please ban articles from this site.

                Post is low effort if OP didn't bother trying to find a source that's accessible to all. It only takes a few minutes ffs

                https://gizmodo.com/irs-makes-direct-file-software-open-source-after-trump-tried-to-kill-it-2000611151

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                • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                  The way I usually do it is by flagging the article and asking the mods to please ban articles from this site.

                  Post is low effort if OP didn't bother trying to find a source that's accessible to all. It only takes a few minutes ffs

                  https://gizmodo.com/irs-makes-direct-file-software-open-source-after-trump-tried-to-kill-it-2000611151

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                  #13

                  Or OP just likes the independent outlet 404 Media, as I also do. Gizmodo features AI-generated articles (ones with the byline "Gizmodo bot"). It takes a simple adblocker or the bypass paywalls clean extension to bypass the authwall.

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                  • aatube@kbin.melroy.orgA [email protected]

                    Or OP just likes the independent outlet 404 Media, as I also do. Gizmodo features AI-generated articles (ones with the byline "Gizmodo bot"). It takes a simple adblocker or the bypass paywalls clean extension to bypass the authwall.

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                    #14

                    It doesn't matter what OP likes. We shouldn't be linking to inaccessible content on Lemmy. That's low effort posting that harms our communities.

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                    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                      Its called an authwall

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                      It's generally for user data collection / sale and adding you to their marketing list.

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                        https://archive.is/https://www.404media.co/directfile-open-source-irs-tax-filing-software-turbotax-is-trying-to-kil/

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                        #16

                        Now as a direct link!

                        http://archive.today/mFHH8

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                        • N [email protected]

                          This is literally why these sites have the free paywall. Some get bypased. In this case, I suspect 404 gave archive dot org access because they rely so heavily on that site for researching articles.

                          But. Regardless: if you think a journalism outlet is so evil and are scamming everyone... Maybe just ignore them because you clearly don't think they are worth your time.

                          Also: republican love people like you who do everything possible to attack independent journalism.

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                          They don't have to be evil or scamming people for this to be a shitty barrier that prevents people from viewing the information.

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                          • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                            It's generally for user data collection / sale and adding you to their marketing list.

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                            #18

                            It's to prevent scraping/harvesting by AI: https://www.404media.co/why-404-media-needs-your-email-address/

                            They do not ask for a phone number.

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                            • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                              It doesn't matter what OP likes. We shouldn't be linking to inaccessible content on Lemmy. That's low effort posting that harms our communities.

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                              First of all, you are on feddit.nl and cannot speak for"Lemmy". That said- if anything, "Lemmy" users should be supporting independent journalism like 404 Media.

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                              • kirk@startrek.websiteK [email protected]

                                It's to prevent scraping/harvesting by AI: https://www.404media.co/why-404-media-needs-your-email-address/

                                They do not ask for a phone number.

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                                Indeed it is, but I'm concerned about the above, and thus don't create user accounts willy nilly.

                                I could use a fake name and fake email, but a lot of sites require that you validate your phone number too, and it's starting to become a lot of commodifiable data points.

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  They don't have to be evil or scamming people for this to be a shitty barrier that prevents people from viewing the information.

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                                  You know what an even bigger barrier is? Not existing.

                                  Independent journalism is good. 404 is REALLY good (it comes out of all the best parts of Vice's tech reporting). They have a very small barrier that basically exists solely to fight bots as a mixture of reducing traffic load (keeping costs down) and encouraging people to actually consider supporting said independent journalism.

                                  Instead we have chucklefucks immediately wanting to remove that paywall or outright accusing them of abusing SEO and data scraping and all that. And these are the same people who will then get mad when EVERYTHING is AI slop.

                                  And this ties in directly to what right wingers want in terms of making the populace even stupider and more uninformed.

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                                  • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                                    Indeed it is, but I'm concerned about the above, and thus don't create user accounts willy nilly.

                                    I could use a fake name and fake email, but a lot of sites require that you validate your phone number too, and it's starting to become a lot of commodifiable data points.

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                                    ... Have you tried? Been a minute since I signed up for my free "account" but I want to say the only requirement was that the email is a real one because you'll be sent an auth link whenever you login. No identification beyond that unless I choose to pay.

                                    So... if you are truly concerned then use a VPN and a free email service every time you want to read this or any other independent media sites that use the same model?

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                                    • kirk@startrek.websiteK [email protected]

                                      First of all, you are on feddit.nl and cannot speak for"Lemmy". That said- if anything, "Lemmy" users should be supporting independent journalism like 404 Media.

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                                      In fairness, this is a dot ml board so 404 might get banned for completely different reasons.

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        In fairness, this is a dot ml board so 404 might get banned for completely different reasons.

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                                        WTF

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          ... Have you tried? Been a minute since I signed up for my free "account" but I want to say the only requirement was that the email is a real one because you'll be sent an auth link whenever you login. No identification beyond that unless I choose to pay.

                                          So... if you are truly concerned then use a VPN and a free email service every time you want to read this or any other independent media sites that use the same model?

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                                          #25

                                          I'm not talking about this website specifically, a lot of sites ask for way too much info.

                                          I just click away when I see a login wall, regardless of requirements. If I really want to read it, I use 12ft.io or similar.

                                          Edit: Here's a wall-less link: https://archive.ph/mFHH8
                                          I really don't feel like setting up an alt email address just to read a single article.

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