TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History
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You're wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don't be stupid.
It's very simple. 36% of people didn't vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don't have that information, then you're making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.
There's your tankie behavior.
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It felt like everyone was like you were either 1000% on board or you were casually on board cause you weren’t “into politics” but trying to find likeminded people who opposed it felt impossible to me. I was 16 when 9/11 happened and shortly after was when I stoped standing for the anthem or saluting the flag in the morning and I was the only kid in my highschool of 1,800 kids to do that and wow I got SO MUCH hate for it
wrote last edited by [email protected]This is online discourse in general with Americans. Nuance is impossible, it's all "you're either with us or against us", for example when discussing China. Doesn't even have to be something political, just any charged argument at a point in time.
Must be a coincidence that Lemmy was much more relaxed and welcoming when there were fewer Americans here in the beginning, you could even read news about European countries, now all we get is American politics spam.
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Hopefully the people can push out maga eventually.
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7 out of top 10 during Trump's presidential terms. My take is that civil duty to protest is stronger than voting for non-Republicans, maybe if elections were on saturdays instead of tuesdays...
Classic bad take
You can vote and protest, they're not mutually exclusive
Stop trying to divide the left
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Others have commented valid points but I also wanted to bring up propaganda;
A lot of people are unwilling or even unable (i.e. there is only one tv in the house and you don’t get to control the remote most of the time) to get their news from sources that aren’t constantly telling them that Democrats are out to get them and 2SLGBTQIA+ are the enemy and that if they just vote for (wealthy conservative) then all their problems will be solved overnight. Couple that with an education system that has failed to give people the critical thinking skills to ask what trans folk have to do with the economy and you get the 2024 election.
The fact that there are so many valid reasons makes me extremely unhopeful.
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7 out of top 10 during Trump's presidential terms. My take is that civil duty to protest is stronger than voting for non-Republicans, maybe if elections were on saturdays instead of tuesdays...
You only have to vote once every 4 years. Do both.
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Classic bad take
You can vote and protest, they're not mutually exclusive
Stop trying to divide the left
not sure which 2 halves i am trying to divide, just concerned Trump won despite having record protests
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Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?
Mainly because your average person is apathetic to their own governenance
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You only have to vote once every 4 years. Do both.
Two years in most states. Every year in some states.
If you're only voting in the presidential election, then you are effectively giving Republicans your vote during midterms.
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Two years in most states. Every year in some states.
If you're only voting in the presidential election, then you are effectively giving Republicans your vote during midterms.
Absolutely vote in every election.
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Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.
Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.
We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.
The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.
It's been clear for a long time that the "silent majority" is in fact just an obnoxiously loud minority.
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Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?
Because while a lot of Americans support a lot of left wing positions, there are no major left wing parties, and a very small number of politicians who run for national or statewide office who actually take action to further left wing policies. There's Bernie Sanders, who isn't a member of a large party. AOC, and a few others qualify, but being a small proportion of those running, they're a small proportion of those elected, and have relatively little actual influence.
Ideas neither major party supports are basically impossible to see happen.
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Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.
Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.
We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.
The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.
Also, if memory serves, the right wing group the 3 percenters got their name because it only took 3% of the population to initiate change at some historical event.
Ergo, it doesn’t take that many people to get out and change the nation, but ffs you got to get out
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This is online discourse in general with Americans. Nuance is impossible, it's all "you're either with us or against us", for example when discussing China. Doesn't even have to be something political, just any charged argument at a point in time.
Must be a coincidence that Lemmy was much more relaxed and welcoming when there were fewer Americans here in the beginning, you could even read news about European countries, now all we get is American politics spam.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Doesn't even have to be something political
Yeah, it does. Everything is political. I guarantee, you've never had an apolitical argument taken over by Americans, because there's no such thing as an apolitical argument
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1 George Floyd protests 500,000[5]
15,000,000–26,000,000 20202 Earth Day 20,000,000[6] 1970
3 No Kings protests 5,000,000 2025
4 Hands Across America (poverty) 5,000,000 1986
5 2017 Women's March 3,300,000–4,600,000
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Classic bad take
You can vote and protest, they're not mutually exclusive
Stop trying to divide the left
Exactly. Theyre not mutually exclusive. There is a lnown issue with working class people not being able to take time off on tuesdays to go vote. If elections were saturdays, maybe there would be a better turn out.
I feel like this argument doesnt hold as much water as it used to with how easy it is to vote by mail or use early voting. At least in the 3 locations ive been for the last presidential election
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I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.
The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.
I was in college at that time and was a typical "centrist" and counter protested. I've changed at lot since then.
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This makes me really hopeful.
Less to me. There are families being kidnapped, seperated, and sent to death camps, and the respinding protests outside of LA were a two hour march on a weekend.
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Less to me. There are families being kidnapped, seperated, and sent to death camps, and the respinding protests outside of LA were a two hour march on a weekend.
What is good enough for you?
Quiet everyone, Mustakrakish is about to tell us the acceptable number for a protest.
Go ahead, the floor is yours.
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The fact that there are so many valid reasons makes me extremely unhopeful.
wrote last edited by [email protected]To make you more hopeful, they have to constantly fight to keep these systems of oppression in place. We win if/when this stops. All we have to do is keep fighting them. Make them work to oppress us, and it'll crumble.
