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China stockpiling nuclear warheads at fastest rate globally, new research shows

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    Seeing how the madmans attack iran. You can expect everything from them like attacking china too

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      Clearly that is a great idea. As evidenced by recent events.

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      • natakunox@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        At this point they are wasting their money. US, China, and Russia each have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth. Having enough to destroy 1.1 earths is dumb.

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        Yeah, but this way you get to make sure your intended target actually gets hit instead of assuming the following nuclear wastwland would destroy your target like everything else.

        It's like the Martyrdom perk in fps games. You die and drop a grenade or c4 pack or something and explode, hopefully taking out the person who killed you.

        It's just a dead-man switch to get the AD part of MAD.

        Effective? Maybe.

        Incredibly stupid? Yes.

        Is that stopping the US and Russia from doing it? Lolno we invented this dumb shit.

        The world is run by insane people who would rather see the planet scorched into a lifeless rock than admit their way of doing things might be wrong.

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          Of course they are.

          The only thing that holds back the US military machine is the threat of mutually-assured destruction.

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            So like modern tanks have nuclear, radiological, biological and chemical protections. Does that mean that they are rated to survive a nuclear detonation at a certain radius?

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              Of course they are.

              The only thing that holds back the US military machine is the threat of mutually-assured destruction.

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              100%. I'm Canadian and I'd really like to have some nukes right now.

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                So like modern tanks have nuclear, radiological, biological and chemical protections. Does that mean that they are rated to survive a nuclear detonation at a certain radius?

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                That’s what they tell the tankie operators

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                  100%. I'm Canadian and I'd really like to have some nukes right now.

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                  Have a bomb, be a target. Stay nice, Canada.

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                  • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                    Yeah, but this way you get to make sure your intended target actually gets hit instead of assuming the following nuclear wastwland would destroy your target like everything else.

                    It's like the Martyrdom perk in fps games. You die and drop a grenade or c4 pack or something and explode, hopefully taking out the person who killed you.

                    It's just a dead-man switch to get the AD part of MAD.

                    Effective? Maybe.

                    Incredibly stupid? Yes.

                    Is that stopping the US and Russia from doing it? Lolno we invented this dumb shit.

                    The world is run by insane people who would rather see the planet scorched into a lifeless rock than admit their way of doing things might be wrong.

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                    I remember playing Modern Warfare on my 360 over LIVE and that perk was so satisfying...

                    ... And then I switched to "Hardcore mode" with friendly fire and forgot I left it on. The boys were not happy when we were holding a position and I got dropped. Tink tink...oops.

                    Point is, this feels kinda like that: Humanity is supposed to be on the same side and friendly fire is enabled. Nobody should be picking Martyrdom. =/

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                      So like modern tanks have nuclear, radiological, biological and chemical protections. Does that mean that they are rated to survive a nuclear detonation at a certain radius?

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                      Nope. It just means you will die slower if you are on the other side of the planet dying for Elon Musk's right to pollute space.

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                        I remember playing Modern Warfare on my 360 over LIVE and that perk was so satisfying...

                        ... And then I switched to "Hardcore mode" with friendly fire and forgot I left it on. The boys were not happy when we were holding a position and I got dropped. Tink tink...oops.

                        Point is, this feels kinda like that: Humanity is supposed to be on the same side and friendly fire is enabled. Nobody should be picking Martyrdom. =/

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                        That's literally what it feels like: being stuck in an objective (the planet) and you have a teammate that's SUPER gung ho about the fact he's got a bomb vest (nukes) on that will go off if he dies, and you're just praying he doesn't catch a stray round (attack) while shooting at people from the doorway (doing proxy war things or just straight up committing/supporting genocide/ethnic cleansing/war of extermination/etc) or lose connection (leadership going insane).

                        If any of those things happen, you know you're all toast. And it's all mostly outside of your control.

                        I hate to use video games as a metaphor for literal nuclear war and sorry for spelling it out like I'm talking to a child but I felt it was needed for clarity.

                        We're all on the planet together, and no one will ever be able to force everyone into submission, the more we fight the shorter time we have as a species.

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                          So like modern tanks have nuclear, radiological, biological and chemical protections. Does that mean that they are rated to survive a nuclear detonation at a certain radius?

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                          No. It's for radiation so you don't breathe in the radioactive dust afterwards.

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                          • natakunox@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                            At this point they are wasting their money. US, China, and Russia each have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth. Having enough to destroy 1.1 earths is dumb.

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                            It's about having enough that your enemy can't target them and blow them up in a surprise attack.

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                            • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              Clearly that is a great idea. As evidenced by recent events.

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                              What events? It's clear that being a nuclear state is great for preventing invasion. If you have a submarine fleet with nukes you won't be invaded.

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                              • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

                                That's literally what it feels like: being stuck in an objective (the planet) and you have a teammate that's SUPER gung ho about the fact he's got a bomb vest (nukes) on that will go off if he dies, and you're just praying he doesn't catch a stray round (attack) while shooting at people from the doorway (doing proxy war things or just straight up committing/supporting genocide/ethnic cleansing/war of extermination/etc) or lose connection (leadership going insane).

                                If any of those things happen, you know you're all toast. And it's all mostly outside of your control.

                                I hate to use video games as a metaphor for literal nuclear war and sorry for spelling it out like I'm talking to a child but I felt it was needed for clarity.

                                We're all on the planet together, and no one will ever be able to force everyone into submission, the more we fight the shorter time we have as a species.

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                                Don't be sorry, it's a very apt metaphor I think. Perhaps this is why "Wargames" had such a lasting cultural legacy lol.

                                And yeah, I agree, it's rarely ever the people who have a problem with each other. It's leaders who want to dominate and write their name in history books with whatever blood they can get on their hands to do it with.

                                There's obviously a lot of disagreement about "Who gets what, when, and how", but anything's gotta be better than murdering each other over it...

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