president of peace everybody
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I mean I'm not sure what to say to anyone that still thinks the Constitution is something the United States actually adheres to.
It's null and void the minute it gets violated at the highest levels of government with no repercussions and we've already crossed that line multiple times.
The Constitution is not valid anymore. The first step is to accept that fact. We're not going to get anywhere endlessly debating a document that isn't taken seriously by the ones capable of enforcing its mandates.
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"It's illegal"
Someone remind him that the supreme court has judged that the usa president can do any crime willy nilly
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Actually, the constitution IS ambiguous in how it defines war. If it weren't so ambiguous, presidents wouldn't be able to take advantage of the War Powers Act so easily - as they have done for decades.
The US hasn't declared war since WWII despite both red and blue presidents dropping untold bombs since then. The hubbub about Trump unilaterally carrying out "military action" is less about scary orange man, and more about an executive branch that has been concentrating power for decades under red and blue presidents alike. This, like many other things, is something that leftists have been sounding alarm bells about for ages.
Stop elevating the Constitution. It is an extremely weak, vague, and antiquated document that was written almost exclusively by 20 something, white, enslaving, landowing white males. I know of no other constitution that explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people. The US constitution is an embarrassment, and its no surprise its getting torn to shreds once the first unabashedly fascist shows up.
Read a great article, over a decade ago, outlining how Congress has steadily given the Executive more and more power under every administration and every Congress. It had dates and links to every single event. Wish I could find that again.
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He’ll do what he wants without consequence, whine about it online as if he’s somehow the victim, and then continue to break more laws.
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You’re right Bernie! But how are you, I, or anyone else going to stop him?
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Actually, the constitution IS ambiguous in how it defines war. If it weren't so ambiguous, presidents wouldn't be able to take advantage of the War Powers Act so easily - as they have done for decades.
The US hasn't declared war since WWII despite both red and blue presidents dropping untold bombs since then. The hubbub about Trump unilaterally carrying out "military action" is less about scary orange man, and more about an executive branch that has been concentrating power for decades under red and blue presidents alike. This, like many other things, is something that leftists have been sounding alarm bells about for ages.
Stop elevating the Constitution. It is an extremely weak, vague, and antiquated document that was written almost exclusively by 20 something, white, enslaving, landowing white males. I know of no other constitution that explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people. The US constitution is an embarrassment, and its no surprise its getting torn to shreds once the first unabashedly fascist shows up.
Really it's surprising it took this long.
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"It's illegal"
Someone remind him that the supreme court has judged that the usa president can do any crime willy nilly
Trump clearly demonstrated over decades that he is unable to not break laws, and he was arguably elected because of that. Therefore, the most democratic thing would be to let him be a dictator.
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Bernie should be aware of the war powers act. It's one of the worse pieces of legislation ever, but it makes the whole declare war thing largely meaningless.
The act gives a president the ability to perform military actions provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of the action happening. Then the president gets a free 60 days to do whatever without additional approval. Then there's a further 30 days where forces should be withdrawing if there is no further congressional approval. However, that timeline doesn't really matter, as the Supreme Court ruled under Clinton that of troops are gone by the time the case gets to them then it doesn't really matter that the law was violated.
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uhhh ok sure but that doesn't mean loopholes exist
and like loopholes the founders knew abt, like its by design that the POTUS moves the military arround
to say that this is illegal isnt sensible, you might be against it but still
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Bernie should be aware of the war powers act. It's one of the worse pieces of legislation ever, but it makes the whole declare war thing largely meaningless.
The act gives a president the ability to perform military actions provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of the action happening. Then the president gets a free 60 days to do whatever without additional approval. Then there's a further 30 days where forces should be withdrawing if there is no further congressional approval. However, that timeline doesn't really matter, as the Supreme Court ruled under Clinton that of troops are gone by the time the case gets to them then it doesn't really matter that the law was violated.
He should also be aware of this legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001
... since he voted for it.
It allows military actions against any country that harbours al Qaeda... and Iran does harbour al Qaeda along with any terrorist group that aligns with their "death to Israel / America" dogma.
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uhhh ok sure but that doesn't mean loopholes exist
and like loopholes the founders knew abt, like its by design that the POTUS moves the military arround
to say that this is illegal isnt sensible, you might be against it but still
Ya congress's check to that is supposed to be the ability to cut funding
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Oh. He must not.
And you're going to stop him, right?
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Can we not pretend like this hasn’t happened numerous times in the past. The US hasn’t been in a war since WW2 and yet somehow we keep ending up killing people in other countries.
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He should also be aware of this legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001
... since he voted for it.
It allows military actions against any country that harbours al Qaeda... and Iran does harbour al Qaeda along with any terrorist group that aligns with their "death to Israel / America" dogma.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I also like the American Servicemembers Protection Act, which is a 2002 federal law that basically says, "if you try to charge any U.S. soldier or official for a war crime in the International Criminal Court, we will invade the Netherlands."
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Ok, so he breaks the law, AGAIN… that’ll be how many times? And how many consequences? And how will he be punished? Who will punish him? Remember, this is an insurrectionist that the administration from 17-21 did not go after because it would have been “taken as political”. So, again, who cares what the law says, because he doesn’t.
We’re waiting on the Kilmar contempt case still aren’t we? (Refusal to turn the planes around)
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Can we not pretend like this hasn’t happened numerous times in the past. The US hasn’t been in a war since WW2 and yet somehow we keep ending up killing people in other countries.
Why do you let them set the narrative that a precedent of wrongdoing legitimizes future trespasses?
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GWB : Hold mah beer.
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The Constitution is NOT ambiguous!..........except 1A....and 2A....and 25A....you know what? It's NOT ambiguous on things that I disagree with!!
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Are the generals going to refuse his orders? Is the legislative going to impeach him? Is anyone in American government going to do the job their very roles exist to do within the framework of power? What happens if he does? What's been happening as he violates the constitution, daily? When he violates the rights protected, seemingly, by nothing but a sheet of fucking parchment?
Whose going to stop him when he tries?
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I asked Merrick Garland if Trump had done anything wrong and he just shrugged and said "There's no way for us to know for sure so we didn't want to take any chances by pressing charges."
Four years later, I feel like he made the right call. Imagine if the Biden DOJ had actually tried to press charges on Trump. Just imagine... I think we can all agree that their prudence and restraint really helped the US dodge a bullet.
Lmao had to read it a few times. Ty
