Best place for a community alternative to Facebook group?
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I admin a Facebook group with just about 30k people in it. It used to be great, and over the past few years the enshittification has been too much. Lately there is an out of control Facebook AI bot posting constantly pissing everyone off that we can't seem to turn off. I only use FB for the group, and don't have their spyware - I mean, app - installed and wont. Admin abilities are severely limited on the webapp.
I'm stepping down as admin cuz I'm tired of this mess. But I'd like to offer an alternative community to members who are ready to jump ship. Is a Lemmy community the best option? It's a photo heavy group so when Pixelfed launches groups that will be great, but I haven't seen an ETA on that. I've read that Piefed has better mod controls. It can/should be public and accessible across platforms.
Thoughts? And before anyone points it out, I know most folks won't bother switching. But I also miss when it was smaller and had more chill vibes so I can live with that.
I know that shitty AI bot all too well. Unfortunately I've tried and failed to get people to leave as well. I have a community of ~20k users. Sad reality is that not only does no one care but they will actively attack you for even suggesting such a thing.
Facebook knows what they're doing. The only way to close the group is to remove each and every member, one by one, and even if you actually wanted to spend the time actually doing that (I have), they will "detect automated activity" and lock your account.
I created my own private Lemmy community. Even set up Photon as a frontend. Not 1 single user joined.
So yeah, we're so fucked.
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I know that shitty AI bot all too well. Unfortunately I've tried and failed to get people to leave as well. I have a community of ~20k users. Sad reality is that not only does no one care but they will actively attack you for even suggesting such a thing.
Facebook knows what they're doing. The only way to close the group is to remove each and every member, one by one, and even if you actually wanted to spend the time actually doing that (I have), they will "detect automated activity" and lock your account.
I created my own private Lemmy community. Even set up Photon as a frontend. Not 1 single user joined.
So yeah, we're so fucked.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You should be able to "archive" a group as admin, which essentially shuts it down. I haven't tried but I've seen it happen in other groups. And yeah, it's really disturbing what people will accept from FB for the sake of inertia and comfort. I've told a couple friends about Meta using the localhost loophole for tracking and recommended they delete the apps and just use the web version if they need to, and they all still have the apps. Who even needs privacy, right? Sigh
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You should be able to "archive" a group as admin, which essentially shuts it down. I haven't tried but I've seen it happen in other groups. And yeah, it's really disturbing what people will accept from FB for the sake of inertia and comfort. I've told a couple friends about Meta using the localhost loophole for tracking and recommended they delete the apps and just use the web version if they need to, and they all still have the apps. Who even needs privacy, right? Sigh
It looks like at one time you could archive the group but not anymore.
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It looks like at one time you could archive the group but not anymore.
I just took a peek and you're right. But there is an option to "pause" a group, I didn't explore enough to see if it could be permanent. The rule that you can only delete a group when it has no members is absurd, wtf
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I just took a peek and you're right. But there is an option to "pause" a group, I didn't explore enough to see if it could be permanent. The rule that you can only delete a group when it has no members is absurd, wtf
Only "absurd" in the context of a user. Not really in the context of a business with 3B MAU who will not leave no matter what.
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It's s closed or somewhat closed community yes. But it does communicate with Friendica and allows crossposts from e.g. mastodon. It's actually a great place to get away from all the noise of the social media world without leaving social media
Do you have more information on how it supports crossposting with Mastodon? As far as I know, Friendica supports its protocol, but that's about it.
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I admin a Facebook group with just about 30k people in it. It used to be great, and over the past few years the enshittification has been too much. Lately there is an out of control Facebook AI bot posting constantly pissing everyone off that we can't seem to turn off. I only use FB for the group, and don't have their spyware - I mean, app - installed and wont. Admin abilities are severely limited on the webapp.
I'm stepping down as admin cuz I'm tired of this mess. But I'd like to offer an alternative community to members who are ready to jump ship. Is a Lemmy community the best option? It's a photo heavy group so when Pixelfed launches groups that will be great, but I haven't seen an ETA on that. I've read that Piefed has better mod controls. It can/should be public and accessible across platforms.
Thoughts? And before anyone points it out, I know most folks won't bother switching. But I also miss when it was smaller and had more chill vibes so I can live with that.
Has anyone here tried Minds ?
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Do you have more information on how it supports crossposting with Mastodon? As far as I know, Friendica supports its protocol, but that's about it.
It depends on the pod. Some have implemented it. I see cross-posts from mastodon on my diaspora timeline. They are more like well-embedded posts, but they do carry a link to the original mastodon post
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It depends on the pod. Some have implemented it. I see cross-posts from mastodon on my diaspora timeline. They are more like well-embedded posts, but they do carry a link to the original mastodon post
thank you!
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Pixelfed won't launch groups anytime soon unfortunately, I've followed closely and it seems it'll be out about the same time as Tesla's full self driving.
I think the best way would be choose yourself piefed or Lemmy, and then you offer mastodon or pixelfed as places for your users to join and subscribe. So it's a little more natural to them.
While your goal is noble, reality is that I would expect a very small percentage of people to migrate. Less than one maybe even. I think that even a few hundred more people joining the fediverse here is a great idea, but I don't want you to be discouraged when it doesn't turn out the way you hope. People love their platforms. (I also just read your last paragraph after writing this, my bad, glad you're in the right headspace
Pixelfed? That's an IG emulant. What about Friendica? Do they have groups?
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I had a bad feeling about that with Pixelfed when I saw them repeatedly ignoring questions about when to expect groups, ha! I know you can follow / reply to Lemmy groups with Mastodon, but can you post to them from there? Or from Pixelfed?
You can but I haven't test it recently enough to tell you exactly how it work on the lastest software versions.
If you wan to test things for yourself, here's a dedicated community : [email protected]
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Has anyone here tried Minds ?
I have. It's not very good. It attracts the wrong kind of people and because of that it would be very hard to stand up a healthy group on there.
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I have. It's not very good. It attracts the wrong kind of people and because of that it would be very hard to stand up a healthy group on there.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Oh not this again, Louis Rossman put the argument I wanted to say in the best way, so here it is
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Pixelfed? That's an IG emulant. What about Friendica? Do they have groups?
Friendica does
