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Norwegian tourist claims he was 'strip searched' before being denied entry to US over JD Vance meme on phone

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  • A [email protected]

    The US is not safe to travel to and you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now. Keep this in your mind regardless of what reason you think contradicts this. It is not safe.

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    As an American, seconded.

    I'm trapped here, don't YOU risk being kidnapped and trapped here or sent somewhere worse just because you wanted to see the Grand Canyon.

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    • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

      you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now.

      My parents live here 💀

      I live here 💀💀

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      The key word is "travel" thus excluding you and your family from the warning. Now go fix your shit instead of crying to someone who cannot.

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      • D [email protected]

        So what is the process for this phone search? Anyone been through it?

        Edit:

        "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone."

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        Well vance is immediately informed and provided a live feed. The strip you and bring you to a very handsome couch. Vance gets very disappointed when you just sit there but he just takes you and the couch he hand picked in and manages to rub one out.

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        • sarge@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

          As an American, seconded.

          I'm trapped here, don't YOU risk being kidnapped and trapped here or sent somewhere worse just because you wanted to see the Grand Canyon.

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          I am honestly wondering how long it will be before you are eligible for refugee claims in the world with the state of affairs in your country. You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada! We have a bunch of issues now, but it will be a breathe of fresh air compared to the issues you face.

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          • P [email protected]

            I have a friend who's going there this weekend. Landing in Orlando, and will be driving to LA. I told him to be very careful!

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            I wish your friend safety in their travels!

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            • A [email protected]

              I am honestly wondering how long it will be before you are eligible for refugee claims in the world with the state of affairs in your country. You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada! We have a bunch of issues now, but it will be a breathe of fresh air compared to the issues you face.

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              Of only it was that simple

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              • A [email protected]

                The key word is "travel" thus excluding you and your family from the warning. Now go fix your shit instead of crying to someone who cannot.

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                But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back. So then I have to travel into the country.

                Also that's kind of an aggressive response for what I meant to be kind of a jokey comment?

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                  Orlando to LA? Are they crazy or dumb?

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                  Flying in from outside the US during this time to then attempt to drive all the way across the South

                  Both. It's both. I hope they stay safe. There are like 4 different major threats to a foreigner on that route.

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                  • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

                    But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back. So then I have to travel into the country.

                    Also that's kind of an aggressive response for what I meant to be kind of a jokey comment?

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                    But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back.

                    You don't, and that has nothing to do with traveling to the US from another country, so that is why you get the "aggressive" response because I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.

                    Leave, fix your shit, or stop crying to people negatively impacted by your people without adding anything meaningful to the conversation.

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                    • P [email protected]

                      Of only it was that simple

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                      Why isn't it that simple? People leave their countries for a better life everyday. If the situation is as bad as claimed I can see no reason why regardless of complexity it isn't the option chosen.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        So what is the process for this phone search? Anyone been through it?

                        Edit:

                        "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone."

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                        Add that's why certain employers already give a burner phone to their employees if they have to go to the USA.

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                        • A [email protected]

                          But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back.

                          You don't, and that has nothing to do with traveling to the US from another country, so that is why you get the "aggressive" response because I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.

                          Leave, fix your shit, or stop crying to people negatively impacted by your people without adding anything meaningful to the conversation.

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                          I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.

                          Go through my post history. I'm literally an anarchist. I literally hate America and I literally want to abolish it. I am perfectly aware of how disgusting American influence is on the world—that's why I'm making jokes about it. Joking about it is how some people cope with the crushing reality of capitalism. And honestly I thought these two comments were kinda tame.

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                          • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

                            I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.

                            Go through my post history. I'm literally an anarchist. I literally hate America and I literally want to abolish it. I am perfectly aware of how disgusting American influence is on the world—that's why I'm making jokes about it. Joking about it is how some people cope with the crushing reality of capitalism. And honestly I thought these two comments were kinda tame.

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                            You literally aren't an Anarchist because you are literally living under the boot of a dictatorship. You likely wouldn't survive an anarchist society, but you will grow out of that idea eventually I am sure.

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                            • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

                              Well I for one find this claim entirely credible (unfortunately).

                              Also, more JD Vance memes! Yay Streisand effect!

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                              I'm on a campaign to only use the name he got from the idot that spwned him: James Donald Bowman.

                              Ofc he's now simping for another asshole called Donald.

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                                I am honestly wondering how long it will be before you are eligible for refugee claims in the world with the state of affairs in your country. You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada! We have a bunch of issues now, but it will be a breathe of fresh air compared to the issues you face.

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                                You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!

                                And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  You literally aren't an Anarchist because you are literally living under the boot of a dictatorship. You likely wouldn't survive an anarchist society, but you will grow out of that idea eventually I am sure.

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                                  You literally aren't an Anarchist because you are literally living under the boot of a dictatorship.

                                  No that's not how it works. Anarchists are people who advocate for the abolition of all authorities and hierarchies, including but not limited to the State, capitalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. You don't have to currently live in an anarchist society to be an anarchist.

                                  You likely wouldn't survive an anarchist society, but you will grow out of that idea eventually I am sure.

                                  Well no I wouldn't survive because everyone dies 😆. But I wouldn't advocate for anarchism if I thought I was going to have a bad time.

                                  But I want to gently push back against the "Mad Max" notion of "anarchy" that I think you're working with. Most forms of anarchism actually call for people to work together, to form groups to get stuff done but without the violence inherent in the State and the inequalities of capitalism that States inevitably reinforce.

                                  For more information, see Section A.1 of the Anarchist FAQ.

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                                    But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back.

                                    You don't, and that has nothing to do with traveling to the US from another country, so that is why you get the "aggressive" response because I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.

                                    Leave, fix your shit, or stop crying to people negatively impacted by your people without adding anything meaningful to the conversation.

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                                    I like popsicles

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                                    • akasazh@feddit.nlA [email protected]

                                      I'm on a campaign to only use the name he got from the idot that spwned him: James Donald Bowman.

                                      Ofc he's now simping for another asshole called Donald.

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                                      I don't understand this, why not call him the way he wants to be called ? He's despicable but his name isn't the problem, I don't see how calling him Bowman (or calling Donald "Drumpf") is making any progress.

                                      And it kind of undermines the discourse that we should respect people's choice as to how they define themselves.

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                                        You literally aren't an Anarchist because you are literally living under the boot of a dictatorship.

                                        No that's not how it works. Anarchists are people who advocate for the abolition of all authorities and hierarchies, including but not limited to the State, capitalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. You don't have to currently live in an anarchist society to be an anarchist.

                                        You likely wouldn't survive an anarchist society, but you will grow out of that idea eventually I am sure.

                                        Well no I wouldn't survive because everyone dies 😆. But I wouldn't advocate for anarchism if I thought I was going to have a bad time.

                                        But I want to gently push back against the "Mad Max" notion of "anarchy" that I think you're working with. Most forms of anarchism actually call for people to work together, to form groups to get stuff done but without the violence inherent in the State and the inequalities of capitalism that States inevitably reinforce.

                                        For more information, see Section A.1 of the Anarchist FAQ.

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                                        #38

                                        No that’s not how it works. Anarchists are people who advocate for the abolition of all authorities and hierarchies, including but not limited to the State, capitalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. You don’t have to currently live in an anarchist society to be an anarchist.

                                        I know what Anarchists are, which is why I said one day you will grow out of it. As long as you abide by the laws and systems of the things you "advocate against" you are nothing more than a hypocrite like all other Anarchists.

                                        Well no I wouldn’t survive because everyone dies 😆. But I wouldn’t advocate for anarchism if I thought I was going to have a bad time.

                                        You are advocating for something that wouldn't last, and would be a bad time for most involved. The idea of Anarchy may sound cool to you, but if you bring it to its logical conclusion it fails immediately. There is a reason why Anarchy didn't embed itself as the default after we started forming larger and larger groups.

                                        But I want to gently push back against the “Mad Max” notion of “anarchy” that I think you’re working with. Most forms of anarchism actually call for people to work together, to form groups to get stuff done but without the violence inherent in the State and the inequalities of capitalism that States inevitably reinforce.

                                        Whatever idea of Anarchy that you are working with is misinformed. The state formed as a product of people grouping up and requiring structures and rules for everyone to coexist as peacefully as possible. If your idea of Anarchy is "Everyone works together to get stuff done without violence inherent in the state and the inequalities of capitalism" we have a name for that and it is called "Socialism".

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                                          You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada!

                                          And this is how we achieved a population greater than what our housing can support. Unless you’re ready to fork over 1200-2k a month for a 1 bedroom & 1 bathroom then I would advise against this.

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                                          You should take a peak on what people in the US have to deal with before you go shitting on Canada.

                                          That also isn't how we got into a housing crisis. That was because the Government stopped building houses, and turned real estate into the monster of an investment vehicle it is today.

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