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You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning

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  • xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.comX [email protected]

    PostmarketOS is cool, but as an actual phone replacement it is tough, at least last time I tried.

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    a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on last edited by [email protected]
    #37

    I haven't tried, but I took a closer look at their wiki yesterday:

    • the Main (official) devices are QEMU, i.e. virtual
    • the list of Community devices is long, but whenever I clicked on something there were significant caveats

    IMHO they should focus their efforts on getting at least one actual phone working fully.

    I want this project to succeed, but until then I use Sailfish OS, btw.

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    • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

      I'm looking at a Volla phone https://volla.online/en/

      But I also have no experience of Linux in general yet so I have no idea if this is a good move.

      I just really want to get away from android/apple/windows on all of my devices.

      I want SteamOS for desktop, because quite frankly gaming is all I really use a desktop for anymore.

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      #38

      Volla also has a (reliable, judging from reports) community version of SFOS

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      • N [email protected]

        Linux has become good enough to replace desktop operating systems.

        Now, we are back at square one. I’ll be the first to inaccurately declare, “This will be the year of the Linux phone.”

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        #39

        Behold, the Linux phone:

        https://liberux.net/

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        • K [email protected]

          Isn't Android using a Linux kernel already?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #40

          Yes, but everything above it (including drivers) is custom-made and tightly controlled by Google.

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          • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            I'm looking at a Volla phone https://volla.online/en/

            But I also have no experience of Linux in general yet so I have no idea if this is a good move.

            I just really want to get away from android/apple/windows on all of my devices.

            I want SteamOS for desktop, because quite frankly gaming is all I really use a desktop for anymore.

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            #41

            Maybe look into Bazzite if you get impatient waiting for SteamOS to become more widely available.

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            • K [email protected]

              Isn't Android using a Linux kernel already?

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              #42

              Yes. IIRC it's based on latest LTS kernel with Google patches. So it's been "year of the Linux phone" for a while now.

              It's unfortunate that the slop they put on top of it is such a privacy nightmare. PostmarketOS is trying to change that and supports Plasma, Gnome, etc. But it's early days yet and still rough around the edges from what I've been reading.

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              • N [email protected]

                Linux has become good enough to replace desktop operating systems.

                Now, we are back at square one. I’ll be the first to inaccurately declare, “This will be the year of the Linux phone.”

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                #43

                This is my fourth comment shilling SFOS here, but it just might be what you're looking for. It is my daily driver.

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                • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                  Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                  #44

                  What about LineageOS?

                  My guess is the problematic parts here aren't open source so they should never show up in Lineage OS?

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                  • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                    Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                    #45

                    Dear tech bros,

                    We, the people, don't want to use your AI shit. Please stop shoving it down our throats. Thank you.

                    Sincerely,

                    -The people

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Dear tech bros,

                      We, the people, don't want to use your AI shit. Please stop shoving it down our throats. Thank you.

                      Sincerely,

                      -The people

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                      #46

                      Hahahahhshahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahaha.

                      Sincerely,

                      Tech bros.

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                      • supatuba@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                        You might be thinking of the normal Google Assistant

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                        #47

                        Didn't Google replace the normal Google Assistant with Gemini on newer phones?

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                        • swearengen@sopuli.xyzS [email protected]

                          Same. My only use is accidental.

                          Guess I'm should get around to disabling it.

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                          #48

                          I thought I had disabled it, and I don't have the app, but I can't see any way to remove it from any of the settings mentioned in the email 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Dear tech bros,

                            We, the people, don't want to use your AI shit. Please stop shoving it down our throats. Thank you.

                            Sincerely,

                            -The people

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #49

                            You don't want to use it.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Dear tech bros,

                              We, the people, don't want to use your AI shit. Please stop shoving it down our throats. Thank you.

                              Sincerely,

                              -The people

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                              wrote on last edited by [email protected]
                              #50

                              yes but what if a company has the ability to create billions of close friends who can recommend sponsored products to you? why would it care about whether you want that or not?

                              also bard was a way better name for google's LLM. it has its origins in an isaac asimov story about a robot who is programmed to tell random stories.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                X is blocked on network level here, could you please copy&paste?

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                                #51

                                Same entire thread on Mastodon: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114670995130379882

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                                • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                  Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                                  #52

                                  Pls break Google up. Kthx

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                                  • obviouslynotbanana@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                                    I don't feel very concerned... That's kind of the point of the service.

                                    Good that there's an opt-out.

                                    edit: I dug around for it. They seem to mean the literal "Apps" settings page and not the "Settings" page. Every individual app that Gemini is capable of connecting to has a switch there. In Gemini, press your profile picture, then apps. In there you can both access the activity setting and decide which apps Gemini has access to.

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                                    #53

                                    Good that there’s an opt-out.

                                    A supposed opt-out

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      Didn't Google replace the normal Google Assistant with Gemini on newer phones?

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                                      #54

                                      At least on my pixel 7, they rolled out Gemini replacement but you could revert it to the classic assistant. It was slow, none of my normal commands worked, and it wouldn't find anything I was looking for just "answer my question". I asked it how to disable itself and it couldn't answer that though. You can probably find documentation online if you use an actual search engine

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        X is blocked on network level here, could you please copy&paste?

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #55

                                        https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1933177989480456365

                                        Use Xcancel.

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                                        • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

                                          Sailfish OS has it.

                                          Unfortunately the project has some closed source bits which, imho, aren't an issue when you look closer (some parts of the UI). Maybe I'm naive but I trust this EU company.

                                          I use it as my daily driver. It certainly is frugal compared to recent Android versions, but fully functional.

                                          It's an actual Linux OS (as opposed to any Android version). Things work the same way they do on my laptop & server.

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                                          #56

                                          I used Maemo on my N900 <3.

                                          I don't wanna use Sailfish bcs of the phone support tho, I'm shallow af & I need my hardware :(.

                                          (I also have a few other Sailfish issues, the source code/availability/package, the licencing - but I feel like all of those could/would change with some growth.)

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