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    They're not unlike law enforcement, in that regard.


    Unrelated (probably), but i just researched this and want to tell people:

    • The US Army & National Guard has a combined troop strength of around 1 Million soldiers. source They are typically under federal control or can be "activated" (in the case of the National Guard) to be put under federal control.
    • The US has a total number of police officers & law enforcement of, also, around 1 Million. source Most of them are under state & local control.

    I'm saying this because i have been wondering, in case states try to secede and trump sends all troops he commands to the states to stop them from doing so, what would be the likely outcome.

    Sorry, it's a bit off-topic here, but the US situation is on my mind a lot these days.

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      What does "the preacher's daughter" refer to?

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      The "Preacher's Daughter" is a trope in a lot of media wherein the daughter of the local religious leader tends to be more likely to be a promiscuous troublemaker.

      Preacher's Kid - TVTropes

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

        They're not unlike law enforcement, in that regard.


        Unrelated (probably), but i just researched this and want to tell people:

        • The US Army & National Guard has a combined troop strength of around 1 Million soldiers. source They are typically under federal control or can be "activated" (in the case of the National Guard) to be put under federal control.
        • The US has a total number of police officers & law enforcement of, also, around 1 Million. source Most of them are under state & local control.

        I'm saying this because i have been wondering, in case states try to secede and trump sends all troops he commands to the states to stop them from doing so, what would be the likely outcome.

        Sorry, it's a bit off-topic here, but the US situation is on my mind a lot these days.

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        yeah we're all thinking about that

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          Ok but tbf those are all great skills to have

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

            They're not unlike law enforcement, in that regard.


            Unrelated (probably), but i just researched this and want to tell people:

            • The US Army & National Guard has a combined troop strength of around 1 Million soldiers. source They are typically under federal control or can be "activated" (in the case of the National Guard) to be put under federal control.
            • The US has a total number of police officers & law enforcement of, also, around 1 Million. source Most of them are under state & local control.

            I'm saying this because i have been wondering, in case states try to secede and trump sends all troops he commands to the states to stop them from doing so, what would be the likely outcome.

            Sorry, it's a bit off-topic here, but the US situation is on my mind a lot these days.

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            Depends on how many states we're talking about and their geographic distribution. 1M isn't enough to hold the whole country. It probably can't even hold New York City. It could probably hold New Hampshire.

            Current US military doctrine suggests you need 1 soldier for every 3 people you're trying to occupy. This is especially true when you have to assume every civilian is a potentially armed insurrectionist, and the US has a lot of guns in civilian hands. That said, fascists tend to throw out hard won wisdom like this, and tells the army they aren't trying hard enough. For as much as they drone on about how they're a bunch of tough guys, they are complete shit at actually fighting a war. Here's a former US Army intelligence officer talking about the numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyBIqRunQ5Y

            Oh, and while the existing military might follow orders to take over states "in rebellion", they're going to be doing a lot of malicious compliance. The way they did Trump's birthday parade proves it. They 100% phoned it in on purpose.

            One of the side effects of Trump trying to move so fast is that he doesn't have time to purge the military and refill it with loyalists. That would take over a decade. Stalin did that to disastrous effect; the Winter War was only a technical win with catastrophic losses, and the later German invasion was barely held back. Hitler didn't really try to purge the Wehrmacht, with the Night of the Long Knives being mostly a purge of their own SS people.

            Trump therefore has to rely on already loyal people with guns, which is mostly ICE, local sheriffs, and police. None of them are big enough to hold the whole country, either, or even a major state.

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              Anecdotal observation from college: Lots of people got hammered on a weekend, at least sometimes, but the people who couldn't draw a line and keep it from destroying their grades were mostly the ones whose parents kept them rigidly controlled at home. It seemed like those folks had no practice in drawing their own lines because their parents always drew the lines for them, so when they were on their own they went nuts. The preacher's daughter is a cliche with a lot of truth.

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              I've seen this myself too

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                Depends on how many states we're talking about and their geographic distribution. 1M isn't enough to hold the whole country. It probably can't even hold New York City. It could probably hold New Hampshire.

                Current US military doctrine suggests you need 1 soldier for every 3 people you're trying to occupy. This is especially true when you have to assume every civilian is a potentially armed insurrectionist, and the US has a lot of guns in civilian hands. That said, fascists tend to throw out hard won wisdom like this, and tells the army they aren't trying hard enough. For as much as they drone on about how they're a bunch of tough guys, they are complete shit at actually fighting a war. Here's a former US Army intelligence officer talking about the numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyBIqRunQ5Y

                Oh, and while the existing military might follow orders to take over states "in rebellion", they're going to be doing a lot of malicious compliance. The way they did Trump's birthday parade proves it. They 100% phoned it in on purpose.

                One of the side effects of Trump trying to move so fast is that he doesn't have time to purge the military and refill it with loyalists. That would take over a decade. Stalin did that to disastrous effect; the Winter War was only a technical win with catastrophic losses, and the later German invasion was barely held back. Hitler didn't really try to purge the Wehrmacht, with the Night of the Long Knives being mostly a purge of their own SS people.

                Trump therefore has to rely on already loyal people with guns, which is mostly ICE, local sheriffs, and police. None of them are big enough to hold the whole country, either, or even a major state.

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                thanks for the video!

                on an unrelated note, if i had 1K dollars to prepare for the incoming situation, i would invest it to stock up on food durables, such as noodles. I would spend $900 on food and $100 on water.

                Humans are basically machines that run on food instead of oil. As long as the engine keeps turning, things can get done.

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                  Resume Ahh comment

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                  What the fuck does "ahh" mean in this context? I can't grok this one.

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                    What the fuck does "ahh" mean in this context? I can't grok this one.

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                    Search engines are free to use.

                    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ahh

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                      What does "the preacher's daughter" refer to?

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                      There's a cliche about the daughter of the preacher being a total slut or otherwise problematic.

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                        A girl I knew in high school had parents that didn't let her do very much. She got pregnant her first semester of undergrad. I think she also experimented with some drugs, but I don't have first hand knowledge of that, just rumors.

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                          Search engines are free to use.

                          https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ahh

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                          No, don't do that when it's something so niche, it's cringe and disrespectful. Most people probably assume it's a typo.

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                            Perfect training for a lifetime of unfulfilling work for insecure bosses!

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                              Search engines are free to use.

                              https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ahh

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                              I apologize. I shouldn't have been rude about it.

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                                What is strict? When I was a kid that was a wooden spoon or a belt. Across the backside or hands. As well as a long list of chores. The strap still hung on the wall of the principal's office at school as a warning but didn't get used anymore. Mostly suspensions and expulsions were the flavor of the day.

                                I got called a strict parent on Lemmy not so long ago because we limit screen time in our house to an hour a day with some exceptions. Our kids walk to town alone at 10 years old though (2 km one way) and have the knowledge and awareness to manage on their own. We trust them and they in turn make mostly good choices. They are kids after all.

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                                  I apologize. I shouldn't have been rude about it.

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                                  I appreciate that, no worries.

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                                    There's a difference between strict and abusive.

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                                      Ok but tbf those are all great skills to have

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                                      Add subterfuge and sneaking and it's ninja training

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                                        No, don't do that when it's something so niche, it's cringe and disrespectful. Most people probably assume it's a typo.

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                                        Jeff Goldblum impersonator

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