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What nerd terms should one know while on lemmy?

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  • B [email protected]

    Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

    Docker

    Federated

    Self host

    Fork

    Container

    Instance

    Flatpak

    Tailscale

    Distro

    Wayland

    Nginx

    Etc.

    Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

    *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

    kolanaki@pawb.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    Most of these are specifically Linux or developer things. While they are nerds, they're just one very specific subset of the nerd kingdom. You don't necessarily need to know what these are unless you're getting into self-hosting, Linux, or software development.

    Federated is the only term that might be useful to a general Lemmy user. It just describes the way that Lemmy talks to itself (through instances sharing posts with each other to make the separate websites run as one service) or to other services like Mastodon or the like, which are part of the larger "Fediverse."

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    • B [email protected]

      Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

      Docker

      Federated

      Self host

      Fork

      Container

      Instance

      Flatpak

      Tailscale

      Distro

      Wayland

      Nginx

      Etc.

      Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

      *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

      orionsbelt@midwest.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
      orionsbelt@midwest.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      i use arch btw (arch linux distro)

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      • B [email protected]

        Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

        Docker

        Federated

        Self host

        Fork

        Container

        Instance

        Flatpak

        Tailscale

        Distro

        Wayland

        Nginx

        Etc.

        Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

        *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

        N This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote on last edited by [email protected]
        #9

        I think the only "required" one on your list is Instance: It's one out of many servers. Lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, etc.

        I find it useful to think of it topologically like an IRC server, if you're familiar with how those work; many of them connect and share content - You're on an instance/server, but can interact with users and content from different ones.

        The rest are more oriented towards Linux, servers (in general), and aren't really required for Lemmy use in general.

        This is where I started to explain what a codebase fork is, but then I realized that I fucking hate typing on my phone.

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        • B [email protected]

          Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

          Docker

          Federated

          Self host

          Fork

          Container

          Instance

          Flatpak

          Tailscale

          Distro

          Wayland

          Nginx

          Etc.

          Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

          *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

          H This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          Docker: it’s a container used as a sort of sandbox environment for running various tools

          Federated: uses the activitypub protocol

          Self host: Don’t use services in the cloud. Build your own

          Fork: Derived from existing project (or process)

          Container: Sandboxed part of your OS

          Instance: There are multiple definitions but the one probably most relevant to you is a node of a federated network

          Flatpak: No idea. I think this is Ubuntu’s containerized deliverable

          Tailscale: I think this is a reverse proxy?

          Distro: A flavor of Linux

          Wayland: Succesor to X11. Gives you graphics on Linux

          Nginx: Web server software. Alternative to Apache

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          • B [email protected]

            Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

            Docker

            Federated

            Self host

            Fork

            Container

            Instance

            Flatpak

            Tailscale

            Distro

            Wayland

            Nginx

            Etc.

            Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

            *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

            A This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            An instance is a specific computer a person uses .

            Let's say lem.ee is still up and you login there and have an account there but we both browse the rpgmemes on .ttrpg

            Lem.ee is an instance, lemmy.world is an instance the .ttrpg computer is an instance. Like different email servers , these computers all talk with each other to make it seamless. All of the computers use the Lemmy software.

            Now lem.ee has shut down, users can't login there , but a new Lemmy instance could be created by someone and connect to the federated network.

            But a university might run it's own instance of Lemmy, giving students an account and have their own communities which aren't publicly shared and they aren't federated.

            People can say there's an issue with federation where people may leave comments on another computers community but they're not visible to users browsing others. E.g. users on lemmy.workd might see it and .ttrpg but not anywhere else. They are meant to but an issue like slow communication is preventing it not permissions as such.

            A fork is a different version of software. Open source software licences allw people to modify and re release the programs.

            two developers might have different visions of what a software should look like , and if they want to split and make their own versions, that would be a fork in the development of the program.

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            • privatenoob@sopuli.xyzP [email protected]

              Well these are all nerd terms, because most of the community in here consists of IT guys and people who use Linux, most of the time they are the same. You don't need to know what Docker, Self host, Fork, Container, Flatpak, Tailscale, Distro, Wayland and Nginx is, unless you are interested in IT.

              Knowing Federated and Instance could be beneficial for the Lemmy users I think.

              • Federated: Imagine you are the resident of town X, and you frequently communicate and engage in town X, but you can also communicate with your best friend who lives in town Y, and your parents who reside in town Z. This is how Lemmy and Mastodon works instead of social media like Reddit, FB, Insta etc etc, where with my analogue the residents live in 1 capital city with no towns to talk with, and having to abide by their rules, whereas different towns may have different laws.
              • Instance: Following my analogue an instance is a town of this federated world. For example you are the resident of sh.itjust.works town and I'm living in sopuli.xyz
              P This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              because most of the community in here consists of IT guys

              Is this data that has been collected, or anecdotal?

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              • B [email protected]

                Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

                Docker

                Federated

                Self host

                Fork

                Container

                Instance

                Flatpak

                Tailscale

                Distro

                Wayland

                Nginx

                Etc.

                Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

                *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

                P This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                Tailscale: a VPN -esque service that lets you connect networks together in fun and interesting ways. For instance: I can use tailscale to access my home network from my phone!

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                • H [email protected]

                  Docker: it’s a container used as a sort of sandbox environment for running various tools

                  Federated: uses the activitypub protocol

                  Self host: Don’t use services in the cloud. Build your own

                  Fork: Derived from existing project (or process)

                  Container: Sandboxed part of your OS

                  Instance: There are multiple definitions but the one probably most relevant to you is a node of a federated network

                  Flatpak: No idea. I think this is Ubuntu’s containerized deliverable

                  Tailscale: I think this is a reverse proxy?

                  Distro: A flavor of Linux

                  Wayland: Succesor to X11. Gives you graphics on Linux

                  Nginx: Web server software. Alternative to Apache

                  P This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  Flatpaks: NOT Ubuntu's containerized deliverable. They use snaps. Flatpaks are more Fedora's thing. I know Mint uses flatpaks, and Silver blue relies heavily on them. Snaps v Flatpaks are like Coke v Pepsi. It's all just sugar water, but people care, for reasons.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    Flatpaks: NOT Ubuntu's containerized deliverable. They use snaps. Flatpaks are more Fedora's thing. I know Mint uses flatpaks, and Silver blue relies heavily on them. Snaps v Flatpaks are like Coke v Pepsi. It's all just sugar water, but people care, for reasons.

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                    #15

                    Flatpak's back end is open source, Snap isn't. That's ugly.

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                    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                      Flatpak's back end is open source, Snap isn't. That's ugly.

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                      #16

                      Huh.
                      Today I learned.
                      I avoided snaps because Firefox snap took so dang long to load, and Firefox flatpak just launched...

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Huh.
                        Today I learned.
                        I avoided snaps because Firefox snap took so dang long to load, and Firefox flatpak just launched...

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                        Flatpak isn't without its problems, but both front end and back end are open, and one can host his own flatpak repo. Canonical keeps Snap's back end proprietary, so it is not possible to host your own Snap repo. Canonical being Canonical.

                        It is my understanding that Snap was at one point intended to be a package manager for their embedded OS, which was more locked down. Then they started pushing it to all flavors of Ubuntu.

                        Explain to me why, on Ubuntu systems, sudo apt install firefox installs the Snap version? Clem over at Linux Mint asked the same question, which is why Mint ships with Flatpak and not Snap support out of the box, and Mint...I'm going to get the details wrong here, either Firefox themselves packaged the APT version, or the Mint crew did, or both at various times.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Things we see all the time, but no one can really describe, like

                          Docker

                          Federated

                          Self host

                          Fork

                          Container

                          Instance

                          Flatpak

                          Tailscale

                          Distro

                          Wayland

                          Nginx

                          Etc.

                          Sure we can search but the terms are just so abstract I can't understand some of it.

                          *this is for helping some new users as well as myself -

                          nebulaone@lemmy.worldN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          You can also look up terms you don't know on urbandictionary

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                          • P [email protected]

                            because most of the community in here consists of IT guys

                            Is this data that has been collected, or anecdotal?

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                            #19

                            Purely anecdotal

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                            • P [email protected]

                              Flatpaks: NOT Ubuntu's containerized deliverable. They use snaps. Flatpaks are more Fedora's thing. I know Mint uses flatpaks, and Silver blue relies heavily on them. Snaps v Flatpaks are like Coke v Pepsi. It's all just sugar water, but people care, for reasons.

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                              #20

                              You can also just gentoo and compile from source instead of remembering which distro uses which package lol

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                              • nebulaone@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                You can also look up terms you don't know on urbandictionary

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                                #21

                                Using a knowledge repository to expand your knowledge?!?!? Hell no!! It's sole use is for meme distribution! /s

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                                  Using a knowledge repository to expand your knowledge?!?!? Hell no!! It's sole use is for meme distribution! /s

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                                  #22

                                  I didn't mean to be disrespectful, it was a genuine recommendation.

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                                  • nebulaone@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    I didn't mean to be disrespectful, it was a genuine recommendation.

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                                    #23

                                    I forgot the /s.

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      I forgot the /s.

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                                      I can see how "[look up] on the internet" is so obvious, it can be taken the wrong way. So I removed it from my comment.

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                                      • H [email protected]

                                        Docker: it’s a container used as a sort of sandbox environment for running various tools

                                        Federated: uses the activitypub protocol

                                        Self host: Don’t use services in the cloud. Build your own

                                        Fork: Derived from existing project (or process)

                                        Container: Sandboxed part of your OS

                                        Instance: There are multiple definitions but the one probably most relevant to you is a node of a federated network

                                        Flatpak: No idea. I think this is Ubuntu’s containerized deliverable

                                        Tailscale: I think this is a reverse proxy?

                                        Distro: A flavor of Linux

                                        Wayland: Succesor to X11. Gives you graphics on Linux

                                        Nginx: Web server software. Alternative to Apache

                                        gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Tailscale is a tunneling service which allows to easily connect multiple different networks together. For example, if you have two computers in different locations, they can talk to each other as if they were in the same location using a tailscale network.

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