Canada plans to recognize Palestinian state in September, Carney says
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"Preserving a two-state solution means standing with all people who choose peace over violence or terrorism, and honouring their innate desire for the peaceful co-existence of Israeli and Palestinian states as the only roadmap for a secure and prosperous future," Carney said during a news conference on Wednesday.
He said Canada would formally recognize the state of Palestine at the UN General Assembly.
Carney said Hamas can have no role in the election he is proposing. He also reiterated that Hamas needs to release the remaining Israeli hostages and said a Palestinian state must be demilitarized.
wrote last edited by [email protected]ok so will they:
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Disarm Israel from being able to commit its genocide and ethnic cleansing?
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Not allow Israel to continue to maintain and expand its settlements, all illegal under international law?
3, Sanction Israel until it dismantles its non-democratic and exclusionary state based on ethnonationalist exclusionary politics?
4, Ensure the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants living many living in refugee camps and are stateless people, and allow them to return into their homes since the 1948 nakba?
- Work on an international framework to ensure just reparations for the Palestinians are ensured?
I don't think they will do anything close to any of those points and this is just mere political posturing to protect themselves from allowing a genocide to happen while the 'international community' stood and watched and did nothing.
It's a bit insulting how they think they can dictate the terms of justice with their vague statements.
It's been decades many states have recognized Palestine as a state. Look where we are at today.
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What the fuck is this September shit? Why are they all putting it off until September instead of just doing it?
Its when the next UN general assembly meets:
The 80th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA) opens on September 9, 2025. Two weeks later, High-Level General Debate kicks off Tuesday, September 23, 2025.
As the United Nations marks its 80th year, global leaders will convene in New York City to build consensus and confront complex global challenges. Eight decades after its establishment, the UN remains the only place on Earth where countries can gather to work through their differences and find common ground — shaping our shared future.
Spacing it to September is both a deadline and a stick for Israel. If acknowledged as a nation by enough countries, Palenstine gains rights it doesn't currently have to redress/self governance/etc. Its largely symbolic, as enforcing them will be challenging, but it makes a lot of what Israel has done to Palenstinies harder.
Israel very, very much does not want this to happen. This is some countries like France saying "fuck it, we aren't covering for you anymore now that the starving kids pictures are showing up" while countries like the UK are saying "fix the dying kids or else" and countries like Germany are saying "we committed genocide against you so we wont begrudge you your own because we consider letting you murder children some kind of weird german liberal guilt thing."
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Its when the next UN general assembly meets:
The 80th session of the UN General Assembly (UNGA) opens on September 9, 2025. Two weeks later, High-Level General Debate kicks off Tuesday, September 23, 2025.
As the United Nations marks its 80th year, global leaders will convene in New York City to build consensus and confront complex global challenges. Eight decades after its establishment, the UN remains the only place on Earth where countries can gather to work through their differences and find common ground — shaping our shared future.
Spacing it to September is both a deadline and a stick for Israel. If acknowledged as a nation by enough countries, Palenstine gains rights it doesn't currently have to redress/self governance/etc. Its largely symbolic, as enforcing them will be challenging, but it makes a lot of what Israel has done to Palenstinies harder.
Israel very, very much does not want this to happen. This is some countries like France saying "fuck it, we aren't covering for you anymore now that the starving kids pictures are showing up" while countries like the UK are saying "fix the dying kids or else" and countries like Germany are saying "we committed genocide against you so we wont begrudge you your own because we consider letting you murder children some kind of weird german liberal guilt thing."
So of Israel cools out between now and September, then Palestine is just S.O.L. with regards to being recognized as a state?
That makes sense
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"Preserving a two-state solution means standing with all people who choose peace over violence or terrorism, and honouring their innate desire for the peaceful co-existence of Israeli and Palestinian states as the only roadmap for a secure and prosperous future," Carney said during a news conference on Wednesday.
He said Canada would formally recognize the state of Palestine at the UN General Assembly.
Carney said Hamas can have no role in the election he is proposing. He also reiterated that Hamas needs to release the remaining Israeli hostages and said a Palestinian state must be demilitarized.
As far as I can tell every single Western nation politician pushing this "solution" is from a nation still selling weapons to Israel and who totally refuse the idea of sanctions on Israel.
The whole thing reeks of a "throw it into the long grass until the public pressure blows over" strategy to give time to Israel to finish their Holocaust without getting hit by the sanctions that Western public opinion now wants.
If these were honest people rather than sociopaths they would have already gotten the ball rolling on sanctioning Israel, not talkie-talkie about, maybe, in the future, merely recognizing the statehood of the country of the people being right now Genocided by Israel, something with no inherent impact on Israel and hence not a chance in Hell from stopping or even slowing down the Israeli Holocaust.
If you want to spot the truly Evil Hypocrite Sociopath politicians, just observe who at this point when the Israeli Genocide is well beyond undeniable and has morphed into a Holocaust by Starvation, is "threatening" Israel with the possibility of some future recognition of Palestinian statehood.
Only somebody on the extremely end of the sociopath spectrum would at this point in time and whilst confronted with pictures of children dying of starvation and overwhelming evidence of the IDF executing civilians trying to get Food Aid, waffle and finger wag about thinking of, maybe, in the future, doing something which puts no pressure whatsoever on Israel.
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I remember last year when people were saying that Gaza will be ignored until it's too big to ignore. I remember because I was one of those people. They're doing this because they knew it was wrong to begin with but are now trying to save face and say "See? We were the good guys the whole time!" Do not let them forget that they let this happen when they could have stopped it at any time.
By the way, I'm not throwing shade towards Canada specifically. This was the stance of pretty much every western country and they are all guilty.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The Western Public Opinion has changed so the pro-Genocide politicians are fighting to delay any meaningful action until after Israel has finished executing their Holocaust, by which point they'll switch to claiming that "we have to accept the facts on the ground that an independent Palestinian nation is not viable with just the population of the West Bank alive".
I've seen this strategy of support something bad; pivot to talk about some future meaningless act that has zero impact when the population realises how bad it really is; pivot to " it's too late now" and "lessons will be learned" when the thing is irreversible, be used countless times in Britain, though never to protect such extreme mass murderers.
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"Preserving a two-state solution means standing with all people who choose peace over violence or terrorism, and honouring their innate desire for the peaceful co-existence of Israeli and Palestinian states as the only roadmap for a secure and prosperous future," Carney said during a news conference on Wednesday.
He said Canada would formally recognize the state of Palestine at the UN General Assembly.
Carney said Hamas can have no role in the election he is proposing. He also reiterated that Hamas needs to release the remaining Israeli hostages and said a Palestinian state must be demilitarized.
Ah, the cheapest option; lip-service
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As far as I can tell every single Western nation politician pushing this "solution" is from a nation still selling weapons to Israel and who totally refuse the idea of sanctions on Israel.
The whole thing reeks of a "throw it into the long grass until the public pressure blows over" strategy to give time to Israel to finish their Holocaust without getting hit by the sanctions that Western public opinion now wants.
If these were honest people rather than sociopaths they would have already gotten the ball rolling on sanctioning Israel, not talkie-talkie about, maybe, in the future, merely recognizing the statehood of the country of the people being right now Genocided by Israel, something with no inherent impact on Israel and hence not a chance in Hell from stopping or even slowing down the Israeli Holocaust.
If you want to spot the truly Evil Hypocrite Sociopath politicians, just observe who at this point when the Israeli Genocide is well beyond undeniable and has morphed into a Holocaust by Starvation, is "threatening" Israel with the possibility of some future recognition of Palestinian statehood.
Only somebody on the extremely end of the sociopath spectrum would at this point in time and whilst confronted with pictures of children dying of starvation and overwhelming evidence of the IDF executing civilians trying to get Food Aid, waffle and finger wag about thinking of, maybe, in the future, doing something which puts no pressure whatsoever on Israel.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Canada is currently selling any more weapons to Israel. The government had sent money in the past (Under Trudeau I think) but nothing under Carney.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Canada is currently selling any more weapons to Israel. The government had sent money in the past (Under Trudeau I think) but nothing under Carney.
wrote last edited by [email protected]First result from a DDG search for "canada arms exports Israel"
Last I checked France was doing a similar thing, whilst the UK is literally flying surveillance flights over Gaza and giving the info to Israel, selling weapons to Israel (in their recent "review" they cut something like 2% of licenses for weapons export to Israel and then loudly proclaimed that they had "cut weapons sales to Israel") and even arresting British citizens who are merelly planning to demonstrate against the Genocide.
People who are OK with the mass-starvation of children don't have any moral or ethic qualms about deceiving the public.
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Ah, the cheapest option; lip-service
I was about to say..... OK?
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"Preserving a two-state solution means standing with all people who choose peace over violence or terrorism, and honouring their innate desire for the peaceful co-existence of Israeli and Palestinian states as the only roadmap for a secure and prosperous future," Carney said during a news conference on Wednesday.
He said Canada would formally recognize the state of Palestine at the UN General Assembly.
Carney said Hamas can have no role in the election he is proposing. He also reiterated that Hamas needs to release the remaining Israeli hostages and said a Palestinian state must be demilitarized.
They plan to recognize it in September? Why wait?
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They plan to recognize it in September? Why wait?
Maybe they will all have starved to death by then.
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They plan to recognize it in September? Why wait?
Because the UN General Assembly takes summer holidays too. No matter how eager Carney may be to declare it, he still has to wait for the UNGA to resume in September.
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First result from a DDG search for "canada arms exports Israel"
Last I checked France was doing a similar thing, whilst the UK is literally flying surveillance flights over Gaza and giving the info to Israel, selling weapons to Israel (in their recent "review" they cut something like 2% of licenses for weapons export to Israel and then loudly proclaimed that they had "cut weapons sales to Israel") and even arresting British citizens who are merelly planning to demonstrate against the Genocide.
People who are OK with the mass-starvation of children don't have any moral or ethic qualms about deceiving the public.
Damn. Any ways to apply pressure against this as an average citizen?