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  • tommasz@piefed.socialT [email protected]

    It's cool right up to the day something breaks and you realize that you are the landlord now.

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    My landlord will fix any problem I point out to him, as long as I am willing to wait somewhere between 2 weeks and however long I hold the lease.

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    • J [email protected]

      If you have a HELOC, yeah but the rate isn't great. If you do pay off, you can always open a new HELOC.

      Funny story, I had a HELOC as part of buying a house with no closing cost on it I paid the balance off but kept it open. They called me one day and asked if I would close the account. I said that I don't think I should, because I'd suddenly owe the money for closing costs for paying off early, and they confirmed I could either sit with a zero balance for two years for free our pay a few thousand dollars for the privilege of choosing the account...

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      I paid my Car note and owed like $250 more for it to be paid off. My lender sent me a bill for $250 + $50 late fee. I called them and explained I just paid $430 and was going to pay the remaining next month. They said my 72 month contract ended is why. Okay but a late fee? I told them I will never do any business with them again.

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        You have a citation? At least when they sell the house they definitely pay it off and then some.

        Been living without mortgage or rent for over 10 years myself.

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        No I don't. I hope you're right, cause mine feels forever away at this point.

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          Unless I move out to the middle of nowhere, there's not many options for me that don't have an HOA of some kind. Wish I could avoid them, but unfortunately too ubiquitous in the states.

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          freedom

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          • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

            It’s funny that the ‘right to work’ exists to dismantle unions, but somehow no-one has thought of a ‘right to live’ to combat HOAs.

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            The really shit part about HOAs is that most of the US NEEDS them. Most of the US has little to no zoning laws, and most of the suburbs are in unincorporated areas outside of the cities.
            This means that without an HOA, there's nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.

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              Then you pay for it and still come out ahead.

              It have a home maintenance plan for more predictable cost and renting like experience, and coming less ahead than renting, but still somewhat ahead.

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              Yep, factor in that most of your mortgage is in actuality payed to yourself. You actually pay a couple hundred dollars per month to your bank instead of over a thousand to your landlord.

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                Unless I move out to the middle of nowhere, there's not many options for me that don't have an HOA of some kind. Wish I could avoid them, but unfortunately too ubiquitous in the states.

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                Unless I move out to the middle of nowhere,

                City folks sure say "the middle of nowhere" when they mean anything other the overpriced suburbs, and stupid cities like New York.

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                • plaidbaron@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                  Youre luckier than you know.

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                  @PlaidBaron @psx_crab

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Yep, factor in that most of your mortgage is in actuality payed to yourself. You actually pay a couple hundred dollars per month to your bank instead of over a thousand to your landlord.

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                    most of your mortgage is in actuality payed to yourself.

                    This is financial double speak.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      The really shit part about HOAs is that most of the US NEEDS them. Most of the US has little to no zoning laws, and most of the suburbs are in unincorporated areas outside of the cities.
                      This means that without an HOA, there's nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.

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                      WTF is wrong with that? My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

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                      • tommasz@piefed.socialT [email protected]

                        It's cool right up to the day something breaks and you realize that you are the landlord now.

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                        And every day, something new breaks.

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                          Yep, factor in that most of your mortgage is in actuality payed to yourself. You actually pay a couple hundred dollars per month to your bank instead of over a thousand to your landlord.

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                          most of your mortgage is in actuality payed to yourself.

                          That's one way of looking at it, not usually the accurate way, but it is a way.

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                          • T [email protected]

                            The really shit part about HOAs is that most of the US NEEDS them. Most of the US has little to no zoning laws, and most of the suburbs are in unincorporated areas outside of the cities.
                            This means that without an HOA, there's nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.

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                            most of the US NEEDS them.

                            Why exactly?

                            there’s nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.

                            You're thinking of zoning laws, those are different.

                            HOA's are concerned with what color your walls are, if you have trees of a certain size and shape, and aesthetics as well as minor upgrades and expansions to your home like fucking window shades and gazebos.

                            And I will also say the zoning laws are ALSO fascist and killing our sense of community. If you think without strict zoning laws your neighbors are going to open a fucking ZOO you haven't left the country once. In many other countries, neighborhoods have markets, people walk around, they sell art or food from their porches, they talk to each other, they share their resources through private stalls, vendors and other small-scale entrepreneurial ventures. They don't abuse their freedoms because they don't want to be hated by their neighbors. Because they have COMMUNITY.

                            But I will give you this one small point: in the US our car-oriented culture makes it really, really hard to have any kind of residential space that doesn't turn into a fucking parking lot overnight without regulations. This is because, again, we don't have markets and jobs and entertainment in walking distance of most homes so you're forced to drive everywhere.

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                            • n7gifmdn@lemmy.caN [email protected]

                              WTF is wrong with that? My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

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                              WTF is wrong with that?

                              While you're correct on this pushback...

                              My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

                              This is the contention that drives the fallacy that we need strict zoning laws and HOA's. In most places in the world that don't have these kinds of strict rules, neighborhoods tend to follow community standards held by the community itself. You have markets and food vendors and small businesses mixed into your community which lets people socialize, walk around and meet each other and not have to drive everywhere for everything all the time.

                              You aren't pounding on your "rights" as a homeowner there, you're abiding by the sense of community and trying to be a part of something bigger than yourself so everyone is happy. This is why not everyone opens a scrapyard and why your neighbors aren't worried you're going to open a scrapyard, because there is a social pressure because people actually care.

                              In the US and other "developed" places, people are scared that their neighbors are going to stand on their "Rights" to do whatever the fuck they want because they don't know their neighbors and their neighbors don't care if they piss off everyone on the street by opening a crocodile petting zoo. Which is how we got HOA's and laws that dictate what you can and can't do on your property.

                              Fear. It's all fear, all the way down.

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                              • tommasz@piefed.socialT [email protected]

                                It's cool right up to the day something breaks and you realize that you are the landlord now.

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                                I'm currently working through getting everything fixed and sorted following an intense hail storm and it's become very apparent that I've taken on the role of property manager by daring to own my own home. Honestly a pain in the butt at times. Long term it's worth while but yikes!

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                                  Buy. It matters. Bring on the downvotes.

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                                    Just a quick example here. Mortage payment I make (or did make, we sold) was 6k a month.

                                    Now sure, I'm getting equity, but it's by no means quick. The bank is making a killing. Of that 6k, we are bringing down the principal by something like 800 bucks a month. The bank is taking 3k and the rest escrow and PMI.

                                    If you buy a house. Be sure to be able to put 20% down. This will bring your payment down a ton.

                                    Try for the best interest rate you can. It'll be a shitty 7 or higher % for now, and at least until the bubble pops again. Because it will and it's getting close.

                                    Then, you get an endless list of repairs and improvements. But if things start to break, make cheap repairs, then save up to replace. Update your kitchen and master bathrooms. These things sell houses. Never keep your house out of date or you won't get the return you want.

                                    Good luck out there to home owners. It's a good asset to have, but only if you keep up with maintenance and updates.

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                                    • n7gifmdn@lemmy.caN [email protected]

                                      WTF is wrong with that? My neighbors have 0 rights to do what happens on my property.

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                                      You live in a society. You only "own" property because enough of your neighbors agree that you do. Society gets together and agrees on the rules, and by being part of that society you agree to the rules. If you want to live somewhere with minimal rules, then go ahead and do it. Just don't come crying to the rest of us when your new neighbor decides to do something that makes your land uninhabitable and worthless.

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                                        most of the US NEEDS them.

                                        Why exactly?

                                        there’s nothing stopping someone from buying the house next door and turning it into a business, methadone clinic, a literal salvage yard, crawfish farm, or gator zoo.

                                        You're thinking of zoning laws, those are different.

                                        HOA's are concerned with what color your walls are, if you have trees of a certain size and shape, and aesthetics as well as minor upgrades and expansions to your home like fucking window shades and gazebos.

                                        And I will also say the zoning laws are ALSO fascist and killing our sense of community. If you think without strict zoning laws your neighbors are going to open a fucking ZOO you haven't left the country once. In many other countries, neighborhoods have markets, people walk around, they sell art or food from their porches, they talk to each other, they share their resources through private stalls, vendors and other small-scale entrepreneurial ventures. They don't abuse their freedoms because they don't want to be hated by their neighbors. Because they have COMMUNITY.

                                        But I will give you this one small point: in the US our car-oriented culture makes it really, really hard to have any kind of residential space that doesn't turn into a fucking parking lot overnight without regulations. This is because, again, we don't have markets and jobs and entertainment in walking distance of most homes so you're forced to drive everywhere.

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                                        So, you know nothing about zoning laws nor HOAs, but you still have very strong opinions on them...
                                        And at the same time you have these incredibly naive beliefs about your fellow humans. Like somehow these institutions and systems of rules you despise sprung into existence not because of, but in spite of, these fellow humans you hold in such high esteem.

                                        Like I told the other guy, there are plenty of places you can go to live without much in the way of law or other rules, you go on and enjoy them to your heart's content, just don't come crying to the rest of us when you realize what a hellish existence it is to live without laws or rules.

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                                          So, you know nothing about zoning laws nor HOAs, but you still have very strong opinions on them...
                                          And at the same time you have these incredibly naive beliefs about your fellow humans. Like somehow these institutions and systems of rules you despise sprung into existence not because of, but in spite of, these fellow humans you hold in such high esteem.

                                          Like I told the other guy, there are plenty of places you can go to live without much in the way of law or other rules, you go on and enjoy them to your heart's content, just don't come crying to the rest of us when you realize what a hellish existence it is to live without laws or rules.

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                                          Just admit you're scared of foreigners playing music you're not comfortable with across the street and I'm cool.

                                          I am pretty much done with people like you who are so bloody sensitive and scared of people they don't like doing things they don't want to see that they make it everyone's problem, how about YOU go live in some backwoods rural shitwater place so you can fire shotguns at anyone who drives past your mailbox too slowly.

                                          Go scream into the void about your rights, I've blocked you.

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