What would a world look like if recycling reached 100%?
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Recycling is a fraud. It was invented by the oil and plastic industry to pass the blame to consumers and shield themselves from repercussions. While some plastics CAN be recycled, its only numbers 1-3, every other plastic cannot be recycled or its so expensive that companies had no incentive to do it, and this still doesn't include paper that also has a limit on what it can be recycled to.
Also I remember talking to someone who makes plastic molds and they were saying that recycled plastic loses some of its desirable qualities, so even recyclable plastics have a limited lifespan.
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"The Midas Plague" by Fredrick Pohl.
A light-hearted science fiction story where 100% recycling, free atomic power, and robot labor have combined to create a glut of consumer goods. So, the higher your status, the less you use. Folks in the ghetto have ten houses and a thousand robot servants, while the Beverly Hills elites live in shacks and play cards for matches.
Fun read.
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"The Midas Plague" by Fredrick Pohl.
A light-hearted science fiction story where 100% recycling, free atomic power, and robot labor have combined to create a glut of consumer goods. So, the higher your status, the less you use. Folks in the ghetto have ten houses and a thousand robot servants, while the Beverly Hills elites live in shacks and play cards for matches.
Fun read.
Thank you for this
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As soon as someone dies, they make a new one from the parts. One Orangehead after the other.....
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As soon as someone dies, they make a new one from the parts. One Orangehead after the other.....
Humans can be recycled.
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Recycling is a fraud. It was invented by the oil and plastic industry to pass the blame to consumers and shield themselves from repercussions. While some plastics CAN be recycled, its only numbers 1-3, every other plastic cannot be recycled or its so expensive that companies had no incentive to do it, and this still doesn't include paper that also has a limit on what it can be recycled to.
Plastic recycling is a lie, sure.
Recycling other materials like aluminum, steel, copper, glass, and a ton of other materials is perfectly sound. Oil companies just piggybacked on the success with those materials to sell their lie.
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I would like to think it would wait till i'm ready.
I suppose you want lube, too?
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I suppose you want lube, too?
I want the easiest path to have the most pleasant shit in the morning i can possibly have in the future.
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I agree but it doesn't have to be that way.
wrote last edited by [email protected]100% is not realistic physically. You should phrase the question as a world where everything that's possible to be recycled is recycled, and where it isn't we go back to materials that are naturally recycled or reusable. Basically a world where plastics and other materials that are one-time use are banned. It's a great topic, as we don't remotely realize how much we throw away. The scale is huge. The change in what is affordable or possible would be huge too.
We could do a lot better, and it would be impactful. Some things have to be disposable in our modern world though, at least with current technology. Just medical use alone is a big example.
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Thats the natural progression no?
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Humans can be recycled.
And are delicious?
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And are delicious?
you are putting words in your mouth.
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In all honesty plastics should be phased out since its in every guys sperm.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well in that case I have no problem "phasing out plastics" on the nightly.
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Thats the natural progression no?
Then clearly we're resisting "natural" progression, whatever that means. It's definitely against the direction for economic growth, and that runs the world. Line go up.
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I try and do my part.
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you are putting words in your mouth.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No... I believe that's a foot. With BBQ sauce.
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"The Midas Plague" by Fredrick Pohl.
A light-hearted science fiction story where 100% recycling, free atomic power, and robot labor have combined to create a glut of consumer goods. So, the higher your status, the less you use. Folks in the ghetto have ten houses and a thousand robot servants, while the Beverly Hills elites live in shacks and play cards for matches.
Fun read.
we can already sorta see this in fashion
in ye olde days, the more bits and baubles and lace and ruffles you had on your clothes/shoes/furniture, the richer you were
since the advent of industrialized consumer goods, flashy embellished things are marketed to the working class meanwhile the bourgeois drop mega money on plain color or simply patterned gowns and tuxes, absurdly minimalist furniture, and unadorned shoes that showcase whatever exotic material they're made of
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No... I believe that's a foot. With BBQ sauce.
Ah, so we’ve reached the ‘fine dining’ stage of recycling.
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Instead of focusing on the efforts of individual persons and households, I think more effort should be focused on industrial symbiosis - identifying industrial waste and side streams that can be useful inputs into the products of other industries, and connecting those industries.
For example, you might have a local electricity-generating station that takes some of the steam that's created as a side effect of their process, and sends that steam to an oil refinery located next door. The oil refinery has a water hook-up and sends regular water to power station for their power generation, but they also send their treated effluent water for the power plant to use in cleaning as well as stabilizing fly ash, and they also send over their flare gas as an extra energy source for generating power.
The oil refinery could send it's excess gas to a gypsum board manufacturer just down the road; the gypsum board manufacturer could also get most of it's gypsum from the power plant's sulfur dioxide scrubbers.
The power station could also send more of it's excess steam to a nearby pharmaceutical manufacturer; the pharmaceutical manufacturer could send some of the bio-sludge waste it produces to local farms as fertilizer, and the rest of the sludge might get processed into biofuel for the power station. Hot water from the pharmaceutical plant could be sent to the local wastewater treatment plant, which generates sludge, which could be sold to a soil remediation firm.
The power station could use it's excess heat to heat a bunch of local homes, some local greenhouses, and then they could also send some more excess heat to a fish farm. The sludge from the fish farm could be used as fertilizer at local farms.
The power station's fly ash and clinker could be sent to roadbuilders and cement manufacturers, and the oil refinery's recovered sulfur could be sold to a sulfuric acid manufacturer.
Such a theoretical symbiosis could prevent 200,000 tons of fly ash and clinker and 80,000 tons of scrubber sludge from going into a local landfill; 130,000 tons of carbon dioxide and 4,300-5,300 tons of sulfur/sulfur dioxide being released into the air; and 1,000,000 cubic meters of sludge headed to either the landfill or the sea.
Oh, wait - that's not fantasy, that's the Kalundborg Eco-industrial Park in Denmark. It's not 100% recycling, but it's fucking glorious.
