[Discussion] Why are Android boot times relatively slow?
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
I think we need better/standardized metrics to make any statement about Android being slow to boot.
From personal experience, it boots faster than any computer I own.
Then again, most apps on Android register for a bunch of receivers, many for "on boot" so do whatever they do for that broadcast. (Yet another reason I run rooted, to disable those receivers and keep rarely used apps hibernated).
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
It depends, are you using a brand new out of the box phone? Or one youve been using for a while? Google loads a bunch of bloat into their required apps to keep pushing people to upgrade their phones, so you will always have better boot times on a phone day 1 than one that take out of the box and dont touch for a couple years then decide to update. Not to mention degradation from repeated installation of random crap.
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I think we need better/standardized metrics to make any statement about Android being slow to boot.
From personal experience, it boots faster than any computer I own.
Then again, most apps on Android register for a bunch of receivers, many for "on boot" so do whatever they do for that broadcast. (Yet another reason I run rooted, to disable those receivers and keep rarely used apps hibernated).
My motorola takes longer than my pc from over 6 years ago that runs win10. It has this shitty lenovo thinkprotect logo that has to load after a long pulsing bullshit.
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
I believe it's at least partially tied to Android's architecture, for example how you need to "optimize apps" on first boot.
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
As you point out, most people aren't cold booting. Even if it is slower, it's not going to be a priority. They are too busy shoving AI into everything on your phone.
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're right, if you compare it to to ChromeOS/ FydeOS boot time it's embarrassing.
And it's quite strange indeed.
I also wondered why hibernation has never been implemented as an option (I guess blackberry used to have it instead).
Also startup applications are something the user should be able to have control upon (android let you control it at the beginning, maybe till android 4, than you couldn't decide anymore, Xiaomi continued to offer that option for a while, then they stopped too).Let's say android is like that, take it or leave, they could make the main OS boot, let you enter, and then boot extra background apps with a delay.
Unfortunately android is made for companies and their annoying notifications/ads , not for the user
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My motorola takes longer than my pc from over 6 years ago that runs win10. It has this shitty lenovo thinkprotect logo that has to load after a long pulsing bullshit.
wrote last edited by [email protected]By how much? What is your start point?
My 2 year old Lenovo (business, not consumer) laptop takes the same time to boot as my ~4 year old phone. Though the difference is negligible.
This is what I'm talking about - we both have different experiences, and I'm sure neither of us is using a stopwatch or ensuring we're measuring consistently every time.
Given how fast either one boots, I don't really see the issue. Especially since phones don't get rebooted constantly (though I reboot mine every 3-4 days because stuff I do makes it unstable). Previous phones ran for up to a month before needing a reboot.
Edit: Just did a test, 40 seconds to being logged in on my phone. Not exactly a problem.
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Original question by @[email protected]
The storage and processing power of modern smartphones are touted to rival those of a typical laptop. Yet, my trash-picked testing system from over a decade ago with a bottom-of-the-barrel SATA SSD can still boot to the Linux desktop faster than all but one of my Android devices.
Understandably, this isn't a huge priority since very few people are cold booting their phones every morning. But is it just plain unoptimized? How hard would it be to optimize? Do security features and checks bog it down? Is it that there's many tiny files to load when booting? What gives?
Shit is slow af
