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  • C [email protected]

    It doesn't work, on Lemmy block is nothing more than a mute, and the instance "block" (mute) does not even affect the individual users of an instance, just hides the comms of that instance from your view

    Lemmy's "block" still leaves you open to all manner of brigading that they've been known to do

    And it still allows conspiracy theories, propaganda and misinformation to spread and fester and affect users who are unaware

    They literally have articles over there spreading the Russian propaganda that Putin is justified in invading Ukraine because it's "full of Nazis"

    Besides this is the Threadiverse, there will always be an instance with wide federation if you as an individual choose to open yourself up to that kind of "content"

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    #98

    You should make a fork with a block that works!

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    • ora@lemmy.blahaj.zoneO [email protected]

      No, it's not a Mali instance. They're using it for something else. You may also notice .io domains are not always based in the Indian Ocean, nor .ly for Libya, .tv for Tumalu, etc.

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      That's the official purpose of 2 letter TLDs, like it or not. Some countries have opted to sell them to everyone, but .ml definitely means Mali, not Marxism-Leninism.

      Since Mali lets anyone register domains with their TLD, you're free to use it however you want, but you can't expect everyone to know you're using it because it also stands for Marxism-Leninism. It might also be a Machine Learning instance!

      They do mention their politics in some places but it's definitely not outright obvious from their usage of the Mali TLD.

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      • J [email protected]

        Yeah I simply do not understand how you can be an ML user and have somehow missed the blatant abuse of moderation powers surrounding users like Cowbee.

        You either just don't pay attention or you aren't on Lemmy much.

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        True, I don't pay much attention to the mod log for example, I did not even know it was a thing. I regularly browse my communities and /r/all or whatever the main feet is called. I am here for content that interest me, no matter on what instance it is hosted. I thought that was the whole point of federation.

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        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

          You should make a fork with a block that works!

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          #101

          If I was proficient enough in Rust, I would have, or someone else would have long ago if it wasn't written in Rust

          Rust isn't exactly a very popular language in open source right now due to its difficulty

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          • C [email protected]

            What censorship? I have documented evidence of .ml's rampant censorship

            If .world is doing their own flavor then where's the receipts?

            Also, .world doesn't need .ml, nobody needs .ml, they only have like 2 comms that don't have a non.ml variant that beats them in MAUs

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            I got banned for anti-white racism from political memes lmao the crime was linking readsettlers.org

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            • ora@lemmy.blahaj.zoneO [email protected]

              The ML stands for Marxist-Leninist. I recall it being clarified better when I last visited several years ago. "What is Lemmy.ml?" is a link that expands on the instance as "niche" rather than mainstream.

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              #103

              That's not "literally advertising", that's an Easter egg, a very subtle hint or maybe even "coded language"

              In any case, it requires the person encountering it to already have a concept of it and background knowledge to some degree.

              This isn't the 90's/early 2000s anymore where there were only a few TLDs to go around, back then encountering .ml would have lead to a line of questioning like you say.

              But not today, today the average user doesn't question the TLD anymore (as long as it's not one frequently associated with "scams" like .xyz) because there's just so many of them ranging from .io to .AI to .shop and .network

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                I honestly don't know what the big fuss is about. I became member of Lemmy.ml a couple of years ago when it was basically the only existing instance if I remember correctly. I've never seen any drama apart from posts like this that claim the admins suck or the users suck. Maybe those claims are even valid, but do they even affect the average user at all? I've considered changing instances even, but it seems rather a lot of effort for a lot of hot air to me.

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                I strongly suspect this is conservative persecution complex. Sometimes I wish these types of users would go back to Reddit, but Reddit is such a hellscape now I wouldn’t even wish that on condescending .world users. Rather them stay here and bolster lemmy numbers, even with their shit takes included.

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                • C [email protected]

                  That's not "literally advertising", that's an Easter egg, a very subtle hint or maybe even "coded language"

                  In any case, it requires the person encountering it to already have a concept of it and background knowledge to some degree.

                  This isn't the 90's/early 2000s anymore where there were only a few TLDs to go around, back then encountering .ml would have lead to a line of questioning like you say.

                  But not today, today the average user doesn't question the TLD anymore (as long as it's not one frequently associated with "scams" like .xyz) because there's just so many of them ranging from .io to .AI to .shop and .network

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                  As I said earlier, it was advertised. I didn't make it up, it just isn't written there anymore.

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                  • I [email protected]

                    I'd rather they stay on ML, that way I can block the instance and never hear from them.

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                    #106

                    Don't you still see their posts on other threads?

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                      I got banned for anti-white racism from political memes lmao the crime was linking readsettlers.org

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                      #107

                      This was one mod on one comm, if it's a good or bad mod decision I won't comment on. But poor mod decisions can happen any time anywhere.

                      The problem with .ml is the fact that it's the admins micromanaging across the entire instance in order to push a political narrative. Nearly all mod actions in the .ml modlog is from 2 admins and shows a clear bias to push their ideology, leveraging their notoriety to do it and allowing known misinformation outlets' "articles" to fester while surprising criticism from credible outlets.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Yes but being federated with them means they can have their conversation in your space or overrun it, hence why op is saying it would be better to defederate

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                        That's why instances, communities, and users can be blocked and banned. If 'their conversation' is not allowed in 'your space' then do the thing and move on.

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                        • Z [email protected]

                          That's why instances, communities, and users can be blocked and banned. If 'their conversation' is not allowed in 'your space' then do the thing and move on.

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                          My dude that is literally what this thread is about

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                          • C [email protected]

                            This was one mod on one comm, if it's a good or bad mod decision I won't comment on. But poor mod decisions can happen any time anywhere.

                            The problem with .ml is the fact that it's the admins micromanaging across the entire instance in order to push a political narrative. Nearly all mod actions in the .ml modlog is from 2 admins and shows a clear bias to push their ideology, leveraging their notoriety to do it and allowing known misinformation outlets' "articles" to fester while surprising criticism from credible outlets.

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                            My messages to ruud i think who is also a mod in that community as well as an admin about the earlier ban were ignored so I assume at least one admin is on board with the theory of anti-white racism.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              My messages to ruud i think who is also a mod in that community as well as an admin about the earlier ban were ignored so I assume at least one admin is on board with the theory of anti-white racism.

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                              Take it to [email protected] then and lay out your case publicly

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Take it to [email protected] then and lay out your case publicly

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                                https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15595477

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  Lemmy.ml is not anti-imperialist. They remove anything critical of China and Russia, both imperialist states.

                                  Instances that are actually anti-imperalism in that they criticise both Western and Russian/Chinese etc imperialism might be lemmy.dbzer0.com or slrpnk.net.

                                  lemmy.ml is arguably one of the most imperialist instances especially in terms of censorship.

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                                  I am banned there so you might be right about the censorship. 🤷

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                                  • G [email protected]

                                    those tankies would be very upset if they could read.

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                                    Lmao tankies are notorious for their reading lists lol. Here e.g. is an introductory one https://lemmy.ml/post/22417306

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      My dude that is literally what this thread is about

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                                      'Do the thing' is using the tools a user has at their disposal to block other users. Communities can block and ban users too.

                                      Defederation over moderation is not the thing I am suggesting. Especially not as part of a multiyear campaign perpetuating a bad-faith feedback loop.

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                                        https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15595477

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                                        Almost a year old and doesn't cover the most recent action within just the last 7 hours, like I said, take it to [email protected] and reference your original thread as well as the new actions

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          True, I don't pay much attention to the mod log for example, I did not even know it was a thing. I regularly browse my communities and /r/all or whatever the main feet is called. I am here for content that interest me, no matter on what instance it is hosted. I thought that was the whole point of federation.

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                                          You're right, and I don't blame you for being a passive user.

                                          Here, you can try it yourself — pay attention to users like Yogthos or Cowbee. 9 times out of 10 you end with threads of them monologuing to themselves against deleted comments.

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