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Flying still cheaper than trains on most EU routes, study finds

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    That's the most idiotic calculation I've ever read since I came across the brain melting insanity of solar roadways

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    Could you explain why, please?

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      Could you explain why, please?

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      How many electrical planes have you seen?

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        but is that taking into calculation that avgas is not taxed while electricity is? is it taking into account the relative efficiency numbers of turbofans? is it taking into account the cumulative amount of time lost sitting at airports, which is usually not counted into travel time?

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        There are reasons to go by train. My point is that trains are not naturally more efficient. It takes cheap electricity and high volumes of passengers to make it profitable. Of course fair taxes help but prices weren't part of my calculation. The energy used for tracks is already so big that many lines are better served by plane.

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          There are reasons to go by train. My point is that trains are not naturally more efficient. It takes cheap electricity and high volumes of passengers to make it profitable. Of course fair taxes help but prices weren't part of my calculation. The energy used for tracks is already so big that many lines are better served by plane.

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          "the energy used for tracks"?

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            There are reasons to go by train. My point is that trains are not naturally more efficient. It takes cheap electricity and high volumes of passengers to make it profitable. Of course fair taxes help but prices weren't part of my calculation. The energy used for tracks is already so big that many lines are better served by plane.

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            Can't wait to send 400000 tons of pig iron by a plane. You are missing the cargo trains (that mostly use the same tracks and are rail company's bread and butter) in your calculations.

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              How many electrical planes have you seen?

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              Four. The only one I've seen with more than one seat had an endurance aloft of 50 minutes at 100 knots indicated.

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                Here's what we should do:

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                  Here's what we should do:

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                    Here's what we should do:

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                      Here's what we should do:

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                        Here's what we should do:

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                          Here's what we should do:

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                            Here's what we should do:

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                              Here's what we should do:

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                                Here's what we should do:

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                                  Here's what we should do:

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                                    Here's what we should do:

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                                      Here's what we should do:

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                                        Here's what we should do:

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                                          Here's what we should do:

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