How do you look upon the future in regards of climat change? How do you imagine your life in the coming distopie?
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People are not having kids because they believe their children will be worse off than they are; that persistent inflation, natural disasters, famine, resource wars, actual wars, austerity, mass migrations, fascism/feudalism are all but guaranteed for a majority of humanity over the next century.
Barely anyone believes or cares about us going completely extinct.
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1.5°C climat goal is gone with 2024/2025 being every day being above that. A positive view of science says we are heading to a 2.7°C hell by 2100. Thought with current politics that is highly doubtful and we might already have that with 2050.
Especially fellow young people, i would like to hear your look apon the future, are you doing something now because you probably wont be able to do it in the future?
How will you imagine life will be like? Will you have to move because of the rising sea levels?
For me i see black. Its over and this is the coldest we will ever have it. I am enjoying somewhat livible summers and lukewarm winters (I remember when there was snow) as long as i can. The future is done for and im angry and sadend by all the people that dont care or actively fight against enviormental policies and living
wrote last edited by [email protected]Sea rising by 2100 is proyected on 0.6 meters.
And sea rising predictions made in the 90s haven't been the more accurate.
The harmful consequences of climate change have more to do with desertification, hotter summers, more energetic storms. And of course the fear of breaking some oceanic current and send Europe into an ice age.
In general is hard to say what will be that thing that will make people say "ok, we really fucked up". As it's incredibly hard to predict the consequences of such a fast climate variation. Sea level rise was the jam in the 90s early 00s but as predictions fall short on that front and even the worse numbers doesn't look like mass migration number for a few centuries at least, worries are more focused on other things that could happen.
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Stop straw manning, nobody said it will be the apocalypse or the end of the world, they said it would be a dystopia or at the very least pretty shitty to what we have right now.
This is like telling a Roman as the empire is falling: "don't worry it's not the end of the world, sure a barbarian horde might come through every couple years raping, burning and pillaging, but you'll survive"
Natural disasters are gonna get worse, famine and food insecurity are gonna become more common, mass migration causes a lot of social strife. Again going back to the roman example a large reason for the fall was the huns moving into Europe causing cascading migrations that destroyed the empire. All of this sounds pretty dystopic to me, maybe not mad max levels, but definitely parable of the power levels.
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Stop straw manning, nobody said it will be the apocalypse or the end of the world, they said it would be a dystopia or at the very least pretty shitty to what we have right now.
This is like telling a Roman as the empire is falling: "don't worry it's not the end of the world, sure a barbarian horde might come through every couple years raping, burning and pillaging, but you'll survive"
Natural disasters are gonna get worse, famine and food insecurity are gonna become more common, mass migration causes a lot of social strife. Again going back to the roman example a large reason for the fall was the huns moving into Europe causing cascading migrations that destroyed the empire. All of this sounds pretty dystopic to me, maybe not mad max levels, but definitely parable of the power levels.
There are people literally rooting for human extinction in this very thread.
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Is it?
I wouldn't be the one doing the killing, so I don't think it should count as suicide.
But, I really don't know. Just seems like it should be a different term. Extinctual thoughts, maybe?
It definitely is. It's a mental health problem, not a valid environmental or political take.
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As I commented elsewhere, a lot of people in our generation are masking deep seated suicidal fantasies and convincing themselves that they are a valid response to the world around them. That's obviously not good for anybody and makes them just as volatile as the other death cults currently in existence.
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"All opinions other than mine are only supported by dopamine highs" - wow, what a great new way of being condescendingly dismissive!
OP actually left the consequences of climate change open. No, it probably won't be a Mad Max inferno. Probably not. But we also don't know where the tipping point of the oceans is, because they are storing a shit ton of carbon. Hit that tipping point, and that carbon may well suddenly be released into the air, and then the shit hits the fan.
But even if that scenario doesn't happen, and the world is still theoretically perfectly livable, you mentioned one of the main problems: mass migration. We already see what that's doing today. We're not far away from World War 3 anymore. So yes, the question is perfectly legitimate.
(And before anyone thinks it: I'm not blaming the migrants, of course they're not at fault, they have every right to look for a better life. The people at fault are entirely different, but it doesn't change the fact there is a causational relationship)
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As I commented elsewhere, a lot of people in our generation are masking deep seated suicidal fantasies and convincing themselves that they are a valid response to the world around them. That's obviously not good for anybody and makes them just as volatile as the other death cults currently in existence.
And ironically, it makes them quick to reject any attempts to make things better. Why bother attempting solution X when we're all just going to die anyway? Eat, drink, and be merry!
The thing that bothers me a lot about this is how many people oppose even doing research into geoengineering. It's like they fear the possibility that a solution will be found, thus disrupting the conclusions of doom that they've already come to and apparently found some kind of strange comfort in believing.
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I can't speculate to the motivations of random internet users but yeah, committing your identity to a catastrophe of any kind is some serious dysfunction. It's like they have just discovered that the universe is unfair so their naivety demands that it leads to cosmic retribution.
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1.5°C climat goal is gone with 2024/2025 being every day being above that. A positive view of science says we are heading to a 2.7°C hell by 2100. Thought with current politics that is highly doubtful and we might already have that with 2050.
Especially fellow young people, i would like to hear your look apon the future, are you doing something now because you probably wont be able to do it in the future?
How will you imagine life will be like? Will you have to move because of the rising sea levels?
For me i see black. Its over and this is the coldest we will ever have it. I am enjoying somewhat livible summers and lukewarm winters (I remember when there was snow) as long as i can. The future is done for and im angry and sadend by all the people that dont care or actively fight against enviormental policies and living
I don't see it affecting me too much, but I feel bad for the people it will affect.
