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I'm trying to convince mine to get on Signal
I just did convince my family and all close friends to move to signal.
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If your releases include closed source blobs, then your software is closed source.
Following that logic:
Many popular Linux distros contain closed source blobs. Ergo Linux is closed source.
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Following that logic:
Many popular Linux distros contain closed source blobs. Ergo Linux is closed source.
@ExFed @jagged_circle you mean drivers for external devices ?
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Centralized. Not good. Conversations is on fdroid and is decentralized, federated, and uses a mature and battle tested protocol. If I wanted something new, I would prefer Matrix over Signal.
Why are there so many downvotes? Dude said the truth. Signal, like whatsapp, is a single point of failure. It can be enshittified just like whatsapp.
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@ExFed @jagged_circle you mean drivers for external devices ?
Sure. That's one possible vector. Is it "Open Source" software? Yes, they accept contributions for the community. It's is "Libre" software? No, they depend on closed source software.
I'm trying to illustrate that the definition of "open source" can be weaponized for no good reason. Dismissing Signal because it doesn't fit a narrow definition of "open source" makes everybody less secure. I have a hard enough time convincing my non-tech-savvy friends to switch to Signal. There's a snowball's chance in Hell I'll convince them to use something even more obscure.
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Following that logic:
Many popular Linux distros contain closed source blobs. Ergo Linux is closed source.
Then that particular build of the distro is closed source. The linux kernel is still open source.
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Then that particular build of the distro is closed source. The linux kernel is still open source.
Okay, so the Apache license is a "closed source" license?
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Following that logic:
Many popular Linux distros contain closed source blobs. Ergo Linux is closed source.
Yes. This is the position of the FSF.
And its why most Linux distros have an option to include closed source or not.
Signal, however, has no option. Its just closed source software.
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Sure. That's one possible vector. Is it "Open Source" software? Yes, they accept contributions for the community. It's is "Libre" software? No, they depend on closed source software.
I'm trying to illustrate that the definition of "open source" can be weaponized for no good reason. Dismissing Signal because it doesn't fit a narrow definition of "open source" makes everybody less secure. I have a hard enough time convincing my non-tech-savvy friends to switch to Signal. There's a snowball's chance in Hell I'll convince them to use something even more obscure.
You're wasting your time. Have the move to a platform that is open source.
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I'm really excited for it. I might actually be able to get my family off Whatsapp because of fuckerberg, but I can't get them to move twice. I'm debating pushing signal now, or waiting it out for sup
Lol fuckerberg, its too funny
(Sorry I don't have anything to contribute to this discussion)
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Sure. That's one possible vector. Is it "Open Source" software? Yes, they accept contributions for the community. It's is "Libre" software? No, they depend on closed source software.
I'm trying to illustrate that the definition of "open source" can be weaponized for no good reason. Dismissing Signal because it doesn't fit a narrow definition of "open source" makes everybody less secure. I have a hard enough time convincing my non-tech-savvy friends to switch to Signal. There's a snowball's chance in Hell I'll convince them to use something even more obscure.
@ExFed Lol, I messaged 20+ connections to step over...nobody. We have a saying "what the farmer doesn't know, the farmer doesn't like" I fear signal has to be mentioned a thousand times from all directions before they "trust" it. The publics trust is based on repetition and the concept that a big firm has more to lose than an non profit.
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Ah ok that makes sense. In my head this guy was maintaining four codebases which did seem impossible
It's not impossible if you are a good developer
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WhatsApp? Just use signal already!
It's not really a whatsapp alternative. More like a facebook messenger alternative. It replaces and encrypts dms from mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, etc
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Is it really just one guy writing three different platforms?
Loops and sup started as upgrades to pixelfed and then got spun off.
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What can replace Facebook?
And how can anyone convince all their friends, family, and random people the follow, to jump platform?
There's Frendica
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Why are there so many downvotes? Dude said the truth. Signal, like whatsapp, is a single point of failure. It can be enshittified just like whatsapp.
We are on Lemmy and some are against everything who is centralized.
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We are on Lemmy and some are against everything who is centralized.
With so many examples like twitter, reddit, Factbook, whatsapp, instagram etc. can you really blame us for not liking centralized services? Also, I don't hate all centralized services. I love Wikipedia, Openstreetmap.org etc. Also, the outage of OSM earlier proves that single point of failure is a reason for concern.
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BlueSkyMastodon = Twitter
Loops = TikTok
PixelFed = Instagram
Sup = What's App
Lemmy = RedditSupSignal = WhatsApp -
SupSignal = WhatsApp@Andromxda why??
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I'm all for fediverse.
It would help with a lot, yah
