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[rqg@lemmy.world]

I just did convince my family and all close friends to move to signal.

[exfed@lemm.ee]

Following that logic:

Many popular Linux distros contain closed source blobs. Ergo Linux is closed source.

[dbosiers@social.vivaldi.net]

@ExFed @jagged_circle you mean drivers for external devices ?

[astro_ray@piefed.social]

Why are there so many downvotes? Dude said the truth. Signal, like whatsapp, is a single point of failure. It can be enshittified just like whatsapp.

[exfed@lemm.ee]

Sure. That's one possible vector. Is it "Open Source" software? Yes, they accept contributions for the community. It's is "Libre" software? No, they depend on closed source software.

I'm trying to illustrate that the definition of "open source" can be weaponized for no good reason. Dismissing Signal because it doesn't fit a narrow definition of "open source" makes everybody less secure. I have a hard enough time convincing my non-tech-savvy friends to switch to Signal. There's a snowball's chance in Hell I'll convince them to use something even more obscure.

[astro_ray@piefed.social]

Then that particular build of the distro is closed source. The linux kernel is still open source.

[exfed@lemm.ee]

Okay, so the Apache license is a "closed source" license?

[jagged_circle@feddit.nl]

Yes. This is the position of the FSF.

And its why most Linux distros have an option to include closed source or not.

Signal, however, has no option. Its just closed source software.

[jagged_circle@feddit.nl]

You're wasting your time. Have the move to a platform that is open source.

[just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Lol fuckerberg, its too funny

(Sorry I don't have anything to contribute to this discussion)

[dbosiers@social.vivaldi.net]

@ExFed Lol, I messaged 20+ connections to step over...nobody. We have a saying "what the farmer doesn't know, the farmer doesn't like" I fear signal has to be mentioned a thousand times from all directions before they "trust" it. The publics trust is based on repetition and the concept that a big firm has more to lose than an non profit.

[harbinger01173430@lemmy.world]

It's not impossible if you are a good developer

[spaduf@slrpnk.net]

It's not really a whatsapp alternative. More like a facebook messenger alternative. It replaces and encrypts dms from mastodon, pixelfed, lemmy, etc

[spaduf@slrpnk.net]

Loops and sup started as upgrades to pixelfed and then got spun off.

[bunkyprewster@lemmy.world]

There's Frendica

[moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

We are on Lemmy and some are against everything who is centralized.

[astro_ray@piefed.social]

With so many examples like twitter, reddit, Factbook, whatsapp, instagram etc. can you really blame us for not liking centralized services? Also, I don't hate all centralized services. I love Wikipedia, Openstreetmap.org etc. Also, the outage of OSM earlier proves that single point of failure is a reason for concern.

[andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Sup Signal = WhatsApp

[pbaesse@bolha.one]

@Andromxda why?? @fediverse @shnizmuffin

[omegalemmy@discuss.online]

It would help with a lot, yah