Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
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I know this might hurt to read but the average reddit user probably is someone who doesn't know how email works.
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Not really though - that only mutes communities, while the users are still free to troll you by replying and generating notifications in posts sent to other communities.
Worse, that protection has even weakened rather than strengthened over time - the notifications used to be blocked. I almost decided to leave Lemmy myself when I continued to receive notifications for WEEKS and WEEKS after accidentally responding to a post that I encountered in All - I hadn't read the sidebar, I didn't know about that instance, and so how was I supposed to know!?
I did that in Lemmygrad, and then again in [email protected] - and after that, I very much understand why people say that we are miserable tankie trolls over here.
It's the Nazi bar effect: "We" might be fine, but there are places here that anyone can just wander into without any advanced notice of what will happen...and then they leave. And complain over in r/RedditAlternatives, warning others against attempting the same.
And since it's TRUE, we DESERVE this reputation. 100% of the people I've ever mentioned Lemmy to have outright chided me for having mentioned it. I can see why, with such bOtH sIdEs SaMe content as this:
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Absolutely. Case in point: I got a notification now when you tagged me, while a month or possibly even a week ago I would not have. There's new features weekly here!:-D
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Sadly there are some aspects that don't work well - like searching and notifications sometimes sends you to things that don't exist. This is MORE than made up for (imho at least, though I respect that it won't be everyone's) in having so many features that Lemmy still lacks.
The onboarding process is one fantastic one, and you've barely begun to learn all that you can now do that you could not before. Categories of Communities, hashtags, notifications for every. single. thing. (whole entire communities? best used only for your favorites or low frequency ones - though a new custom Topics feature will make that process obsolete, whenever it comes out, I don't know the prioritization. Comment in [email protected] or [email protected] if you want to add new feature requests:-)
I would keep your old account around though, for the handful of things that PieFed isn't fully ready to deliver yet.
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US politics (WAY TOO MUCH)
Piefed has built in keywords filters, that can help
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There's been a few of those posts lately, the next one I'm probably going to suggest the OP to improve the onboarding themselves
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I can browse the All feed but not much interests me there. I’ve found a few on my instance and stumbled upon some from other instances via links in posts but if I find a community on something like the website you posted I have no idea how to get there and subscribe to the community. I try to paste the link into the search but that just treats it like a keyword to search my instance.
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lol lol
- Reddit sucks
- I can’t be expected to make a decision
- I’ll stick with reddit
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First off, there's nothing we can do about moving away from larger hosting Corporations, not with the technology we currently have. If we want to reach a national or international audience, we need infrastructure, and that has to come from somewhere; a business model makes sense. If you're hosting to a small community, you'd be able to get away with 1 selfhost, but to scale you'd need redundancies and bandwidth. The best choice we can make is the companies we would rather do business with. At this point, I'm definitely favoring Cloudflare and Azure (in that order) over AWS.
I would argue that the fractured - often openly hostile - intra-instance infighting on Lemmy feeds directly into OP’s image’s “this is too weird and scary” attitude.
I see this in a lot of comments about this so while I don't want to downplay the severity of this, I've personally never see instance in-fighting. Maybe it's the things I'm subscribed to, idk, but I usually visit both my local and all just to see what's going on. The Hexbear domain being sold is probably one of the first times I've run across discussions about other instances. Also, their domain being sold is lowkey hilarious. That was a problem as old as the internet (losing a domain). As we move to decentralization and privatization/ownership of data that's going to continue to be a thing I think.
Its the same intra-channel fighting we saw on Reddit,
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intra-channel fighting - is it just disagreeable people commenting, or is it like "This community is better than that" or "This instance is better than that"? I often see discussions on Reddit, arguing, bad faith actors, but I wouldn't classify that as in-channel-fighting. idk.
There’s not a lot we can do about it individually.
Complain. JoinLemmy is Open Source on Github. If you have ideas - share them. If you take a look through their issues and feel like adding in your 2 cents, go for it.
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In addition to keyword filters that Blaze mentioned, PieFed is basically the only way I know of, other than an app (Sync or Connect) that offers a true instance filter that blocks all users from the specified instance, without requiring admin support. I've blocked all those batshit insane comments from lemmy.ml and now if I go to the same identical posts, those comments from those users from those instances that you specify are flat gone. Regardless of the community. More in this post but that's basically it that I've said already.
Likewise, Categories of Communities allows you to have your cake and (when you want it) eat it too. e.g. check out https://piefed.social/topic/arts-craft and note absence of it, in that category. Likewise https://piefed.social/topic/fediverse, and https://piefed.social/topic/food, and https://piefed.social/topic/gaming, and so on. But, in the very rare event that you ARE wanting it (hey, it happens!) it's still accessible at https://piefed.social/topic/news (& politics).
I would be remiss if I did not tell you that PieFed isn't fully completed yet - it both has features that Lemmy (and even Reddit!) lacks, while also missing some, like its search feature is pretty abysmally bad (on purpose, it just hasn't been the top priority yet, to receive some love and attention:-). Though I still love it even so. You can keep your old account (to do things that PieFed cannot yet), and eventually you should find yourself using the new perhaps 90% of the time, as you adjust and come to love what it can do for you - though note that I find that the approach to finding content is quite different from when I used Lemmy, which only offers Subscribed vs. All, whereas PieFed has so many more options to choose from (it may be overwhelming at first - but it's so fantastic to have choices!:-).
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If they look at the "all" feed they'll see 90% of the same stuff from 90% of instances.
Once (from experience) they learn what they want from an instance, they can always switch.
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could you give me an example of which community doesn't work?
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"feels like old reddit" is a weird way to say "it feels like new reddit, but doesn't leak ram, doesn't take as much or more processing power as AI does to run, and interjects ads randomly into the feeds"
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it's confusing from the perspective of choice paralysis, ultimately you can just make a new account and move to another instance if you really don't like the one you're on.
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Volunteers are a double edged sword. At some volume of users and content it either needs to be a huge team of like minded volunteers which increases the likelihood of ye power tripping bastards or someone who is paid to do it and spend the time with rules to follow.
