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Advice for a Linux Laptop in 2025

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  • C [email protected]

    Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

    I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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    I would reccomend the current configuration that I am running, It is a customised lenovo laptop that I got for little less than $390 (Not us citizen, and we have mid-high taxes, but i got roughly 5% off as student discount and another 5% for credit card payment, and you also apply the CUSTOMOFF coupon for rougly 5% more) - It is lenovo v14 G4 (you can also try to get 16 inch if you prefer that, differnce is roughly $10-20) - 2 things to note - I did not select a ram or storage upgrade - it comes with 8GiB soldered, but there is one slot free, and I added 16GiB which I already had, also I had my 512 GiB SSD, which i swapped with its 256 GiB one. If you would like to, you can get both of these upgraded for about $50 USD. Also you can choose between a 3 cell battery, or a 2 cell and a harddrive (this choice is only available in 16 inch one though).

    List of upgrades that I did

    Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U Processor (2.00 GHz up to 4.50 GHz) selected upgrade
    Display 35.56cms (14) FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, Anti-Glare, Non-Touch, 45%NTSC, 300 nits,
    Battery 3 Cell Li-Polymer 45Wh selected upgrade

    Here is a link for configurator (not affiliated or anything else)

    https://www.lenovo.com/in/en/configurator/cto/index.html?bundleId=82YXCTO1WWIN1

    I checked this config not available in US

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    • C [email protected]

      Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

      I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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      I would recommend a Thinkpad. I have an E14, you can get them for under 800 Bucks. The Linux support is awesome ,under Fedora everything works out oft the box.

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      • rando@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

        I had one of the initial batches and the hinge was too weak. They came out with stronger ones that are much better which I now have. It was cheap and easy to replace

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        Do they just use the good ones in new models now?

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          https://kfocus.org/spec/spec-ir16.html this is an absolute gem. Framework is way overhyped and its "upgradeability" is totally unrealistic at best, scam at worst.

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          You're worried about the screen being worn out? How does a screen wear out (excluding maybe oled burn in, but this aint oled). And a good chassis shouldn't show that much wear after a few years.

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          • C [email protected]

            Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

            I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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            You can get a used thinkpad T480 off eBay for ~$150. I've dropped it multiple times and spilled orange juice on it and it works perfectly fine. No issues running Linux mint Debian edition. Main drawback is the fan which isn't the most efficient at cooling, but it is upgradeable.

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            • C [email protected]

              Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

              I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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              Consider taking a look at this criminally underrated Linux-first vendor: NovaCustom. Prices aren't cheap, unfortunate. But it boasts hardware from about a year ago. Furthermore, NovaCustom takes Libre very seriously: from supporting coreboot to offering blob-free WiFi-cards.

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              • F [email protected]

                You're worried about the screen being worn out? How does a screen wear out (excluding maybe oled burn in, but this aint oled). And a good chassis shouldn't show that much wear after a few years.

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                If the laptop is old enough to merit CPU upgrade, then its likely already experienced plenty of wear and tear. Also I never said anything about the screen wearing out, I specifically said the case. I gave credit that at least the screen would carry over

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                • G [email protected]

                  I daily drive my framework 13 since the first batch, upgraded twice the mobo.
                  I run it on arch Linux, 0 issue whatsoever even after a year bringing it on site like the Texan boonies or on boats in the middle of the golf of Mexico ..
                  Compatibility wise with linux, 100% of the peripherals work, even the finger reader thing.

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                  I don’t want to denigrate people that it works for, because I know the people that love them love them.

                  Has the battery life (more specifically drain while in suspend) gotten better? I’ve heard horror stories on that, port availability (pretty limited ports because each port attachment takes up so much space) and some complaints about build quality and durability.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    Yes but in the future when you need or want to upgrade again, it's a fairly trivial cost because you're reusing 90% of the parts. It's an investment.

                    Not to mention if there's any kind of mechanical issue in the future.

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                    reusing 90% of the parts

                    Oops you need a whole new mainboard anyway to upgrade the CPU... oops you need new DDR5 RAM for the new CPU... oops these framework parts cost a premium at about the same cost as a new laptop anyay. Congrats, you now have an upgraded laptop in an old case that's already gone through wear and tear...

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                      If the laptop is old enough to merit CPU upgrade, then its likely already experienced plenty of wear and tear. Also I never said anything about the screen wearing out, I specifically said the case. I gave credit that at least the screen would carry over

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                      What "merits" needing a CPU upgrade? I upgraded from a core i9 11950h to a 13900h machine because I needed more performance. That 11th gen machine still looks pristine besides one spot where a cat bit the corner of the lid. Even my piddling around machine wasn't up to snuff and upgraded from a 10th gen i5 to a 12th gen system. That machine's keyboard was a bit worn when I first got it, but it's not (appreciably) worse now. Besides that and maybe the palm rest the chassis is in pretty good condition. Why does it matter if the keycaps are a little smooth? Or there's a small scuff on one corner. Or a cat punctured the bezel of the display and somehow didn't break anything.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

                        I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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                        I'm loving my Framework, have Mint on there. Thinkpads are also well regarded I believe

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                          What "merits" needing a CPU upgrade? I upgraded from a core i9 11950h to a 13900h machine because I needed more performance. That 11th gen machine still looks pristine besides one spot where a cat bit the corner of the lid. Even my piddling around machine wasn't up to snuff and upgraded from a 10th gen i5 to a 12th gen system. That machine's keyboard was a bit worn when I first got it, but it's not (appreciably) worse now. Besides that and maybe the palm rest the chassis is in pretty good condition. Why does it matter if the keycaps are a little smooth? Or there's a small scuff on one corner. Or a cat punctured the bezel of the display and somehow didn't break anything.

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                          Either you're holding onto the case for many many years continuously upgrading, which I question why an old case is so valuable to not just replace it too when you replace the entire mainboard, or you're not, which makes me question the entire "upgradeable" concept.

                          Either way it doesn't really make sense. You can already easily upgrade the parts that don't require a whole new mainboard on literally any other laptop (hard drives, RAM, network card, battery).

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                          • C [email protected]

                            Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

                            I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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                            Depends on budget but if your budget is above $800 get a framework they are awesome and work great with Linux if your budget is below that look at an e series Thinkpad or used thinkpad on eBay that fits your budget

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                              Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

                              I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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                              If something supports linux-libre kernel, it supports all distros. See https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Hardware-Considerations.html

                              Also:
                              https://www.h-node.org/

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                              • T [email protected]

                                reusing 90% of the parts

                                Oops you need a whole new mainboard anyway to upgrade the CPU... oops you need new DDR5 RAM for the new CPU... oops these framework parts cost a premium at about the same cost as a new laptop anyay. Congrats, you now have an upgraded laptop in an old case that's already gone through wear and tear...

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                                Oops you need a whole new mainboard anyway to upgrade the CPU

                                Yes that would be the 10% I was referring to.

                                oops you need new DDR5 RAM for the new CPU

                                ...and the other new computer you want to buy doesn't?

                                oops these framework parts cost a premium

                                You pay a little more for the 10% of new parts but it's easily accounted for in the other 90%.

                                Congrats, you now have...an old case that's already gone through wear and tear...

                                ...so? You saved buckets of money in the process...

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  So... all the normal stuff that is normally upgradeable on a normal laptop is upgradeable?

                                  The only "replacing the entire guts" you would do is if you replaced the mainboard for a CPU upgrade

                                  That's exactly my point, yes. Again, the "upgradeability" of a framework laptop is unrealistic at best and a scam at worst. It's exactly as upgradeable as most laptops unless you're replacing the whole mainboard which is not very realistic

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                                  so all the normal stuff that's normally upgradable

                                  That's just the thing, though. Soldered RAM and even drives is becoming more and more common these days, especially in the Apple space. But, the main thing here is user replaceable. I don't know when you last swapped the RAM on a laptop, but on most consumer laptops these days it is a nightmare. With Framework, it's 5 screws (the driver for which is included in the box, but also just standard torx) and you're in, and they have a QR code to a guide on how to do the replacement for first timers. I know it can be hard to take if you're used to pulling apart computers for fun, I come from there too, but the easy user upgradeability is seriously, literally, actually a great selling point on the Framework.

                                  Also, the case, screen, trackpad, etc that get all the wear and tear are just as easily replaced if that's your hang up.

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                                    I'm loving my Framework, have Mint on there. Thinkpads are also well regarded I believe

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                                    Yeah but new ThinkPads comes with soldered RAMs. Even mostly all brands do the same. I think framework don't do it

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                                      Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

                                      I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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                                      Go to an electronics recycling center and get a retired thinkpad (or 5).
                                      Once they’re decommissioned by corporations, they wipe the drive and send them off to be recycled.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

                                        I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

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                                        https://starlabs.systems/

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          They're still far better than everything else on the market.

                                          IdeaPads also aren't ThinkPads. Those are the consumer grade garbage you'd want to stay away from.

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                                          Yup, "Thinkpad" not the other Think... or ...pad. The consumer targeted stuff is bad, even the Lenovo sales rep I got my P14s told me so.

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