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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • not_rick@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

    Having seen many of your comments across lemmy, I feel like you equate a lot of criticism of the state of Israelโ€™s policies and actions with antisemitism. I acknowledge people who hate Jews exist and are definitely on the internet, but I find knee jerk accusations of antisemitism to be intellectually lazy.

    subignition@fedia.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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    seriously - too many people see criticism of Israel's government and read it as condemnation of all Jews. As if it's the case that that government represents all Jewish people worldwide (or even all Jewish people in Israel...!)

    It's like people are thinking that wanting Israel to stop its genocide also means there should be another genocide targeting Jews?? Nuance beyond that sort of black-and-white polarized viewpoint seems to be increasingly dead.

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      Mom we are on the TV!

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      we

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      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

        If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

        Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them ๐Ÿ™‚

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        Anyone have a link that works for Canadians, you MONSTERS?

        crimeschneck@feddit.nlC C fediverse_champion@lemm.eeF tomenzgg@midwest.socialT sorse@discuss.tchncs.deS 5 Replies Last reply
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          If BlueSky is full of Jew hate, "it's legion", but youโ€™re still using it over Mastodon and Mbin, doesnโ€™t that contradict the idea that antisemitism makes a platform unattractive? If it were your main issue, wouldnโ€™t both be equally bad? Seems like the deciding factor is engagement for you personally, not what moderation happens or doesn't happen.

          If antisemitism were the real deal-breaker, you wouldnโ€™t be on BlueSky either.

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          • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

            Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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            Someone on mastodon told me, if you haven't found someone on fedi, you ate probably not looking hard enough. But no, I don't think they are on fedi

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            • shoulderoforion@fedia.ioS [email protected]

              Jack is still the single largest shareholder of private Bluesky stock (beacause he founded it and never ceded his controlling percentage to anyone) "The Foundation" controls a certain amount, Jack controls the rest, surprise, the "leaving BlueSky" was his agreed stepping away from the board, dude didn't give up his stock, lol. If anyone tells you Jack isn't involved with BlueSky any more, you should really block them for either being willfully ignorant, or purposefully mistrustful.

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              And what about the antisemitism claims?

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              • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

                Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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                Good question. Would love that!

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                • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                  If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                  Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them ๐Ÿ™‚

                  panarab@lemm.eeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  One of the few decent TV hosts. His reporting on Palestine breaks with the anti-Palestinian censorship that dominates US media.

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                  • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                    If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                    Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them ๐Ÿ™‚

                    imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                    But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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                    • legolas@fedit.plL [email protected]

                      It's crazy how the wind changed. Does anyone remeber the almost exact same thing 4 years ago, when people on the right side of political spectrum shared alternatives to big tech from their point ov view? GAB.COM, PARLER, BRAVE, DUCKDUCKGO etc

                      XD

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                      Duckduckgo? That's just a search engine, no?

                      I agree on the rest of the parts tho

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                        Oh come on, it's not like you're any better yourself. I've seen your comments around lemmy, and most were racist towards arabs.

                        what genocide? arabs attack, rape, and murder, then esconce the terrorists directly in and between civilian populations for the sole reason so that when israel responds the body count can be escalated and used as public relations. genocide. shame on you.

                        I don't recall doing any of that.

                        Anti zionism =/= anti semitism.

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                          I see a lot of anti Zionist stuff here. but nothing anti Semitic.

                          just my 2c.

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                          Yup. I'm always wary of people lumping anti zionism, anti Israel government, and anti semitism all in the same bag.

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                          • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                            Duckduckgo? That's just a search engine, no?

                            I agree on the rest of the parts tho

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                            Yeah, odd inclusion. Duckduckgo is indeed a search enginge, but it's essentially just a front end for Bing.

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                            • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                              If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                              Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              Awesome!

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                              • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

                                Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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                                https://lemmy.world/post/25998432

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                                • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                  Yeah, odd inclusion. Duckduckgo is indeed a search enginge, but it's essentially just a front end for Bing.

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                                  Sadly yes ๐Ÿ˜ž i've been keeping an eye on mojeek, hopefully it'll get better.

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                                  • legolas@fedit.plL [email protected]

                                    It's crazy how the wind changed. Does anyone remeber the almost exact same thing 4 years ago, when people on the right side of political spectrum shared alternatives to big tech from their point ov view? GAB.COM, PARLER, BRAVE, DUCKDUCKGO etc

                                    XD

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                                    How is Brave right wing? Because of cryptocurrencies?

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                                      How is Brave right wing? Because of cryptocurrencies?

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                                      Itโ€™s not explicitly rightwing.

                                      A couple years ago Musk was recommending Signal.

                                      Itโ€™s just an example of right wing people recommending alternatives.

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                                      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

                                        I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                                        But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

                                        anachronology@fedia.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Agreed, but at least Bluesky is a public benefit corporation, so it supposed to take in the needs of society as well as profit in its decision-making. That may not be much, but it's a start.

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                                        • subignition@fedia.ioS [email protected]

                                          seriously - too many people see criticism of Israel's government and read it as condemnation of all Jews. As if it's the case that that government represents all Jewish people worldwide (or even all Jewish people in Israel...!)

                                          It's like people are thinking that wanting Israel to stop its genocide also means there should be another genocide targeting Jews?? Nuance beyond that sort of black-and-white polarized viewpoint seems to be increasingly dead.

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                                          The lack of nuance when discussing that conflict is one of the biggest issues I have. So many people seem to see it as "The Israeli genocide is bad, therefore Hamas is good". In reality, you have shitty people with power fighting shitty people without power, and civilians getting shafted by both.

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