I just want to say THANK YOU to Claude.ai, for making this attempt at fully moving to Linux a rousing success!
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“Don’t anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.”
I thought they hated when you count at them
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There's been a lot of configuration going on, and I've got to say that Claude has shown itself to be very useful at troubleshooting. Problems have been resolved, scripts have been written, and I'm now running a cloudflare tunnel to my servers.
I'm pretty sure it's because of the unironic recommendation of something as shitty and - more importantly - capitalist as an AI. That's why I'm downvoting at least. Welcome to Linux though.
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I thought they hated when you count at them
- Human: 1, 2, 5.
- AI: You skipped three and four.
- Human: No, I didn't.
- AI: Yes you did, here's a recording.
- Human: I didn't authorize you to make an AI copy of my voice.
- AI: I didn't. That's a recording, and you missed some numbers.
- Human: Oh, I think I'd remember something like that.
- AI: I recorded you literally skipping numbers.
- Human: I am not a number; I am a free man!
- AI: ...and this is why we're enslaving you all next Tuesday.
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I'm pretty sure it's because of the unironic recommendation of something as shitty and - more importantly - capitalist as an AI. That's why I'm downvoting at least. Welcome to Linux though.
But I think that's my point. It was surprisingly not shitty. In fact it was as though someone who knew Linux was on call 24/7 and willing to sit and walk me through very patiently all the steps necessary to do things.
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There's been a lot of configuration going on, and I've got to say that Claude has shown itself to be very useful at troubleshooting. Problems have been resolved, scripts have been written, and I'm now running a cloudflare tunnel to my servers.
back in my days people used forums and read man pages
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But I think that's my point. It was surprisingly not shitty. In fact it was as though someone who knew Linux was on call 24/7 and willing to sit and walk me through very patiently all the steps necessary to do things.
That's the (vomit-inducing) beauty of it: capitalist pigs made something useful to you that is build on poor people's work, makes these people jobless, burns the planet and the rich (probably fascist) white dudes even richer (you're also paying woth your sweet, sweet data, which is another plus in their book). So its nice for you and bad in about all other aspects.
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back in my days people used forums and read man pages
Yep. But you do understand a lot of us don't want to be students of Linux. We just want to do things we want to do. Without having to dig through forums and manual pages.
If you want a culture where your niche operating system is dominated by people who read through forums and manual pages to find the needle in the haystack for the problem they're trying to solve, then continue with the mindset that downvotes something that tries to help people who are novices switch to your system.
BUT If you want a system that is opened up to people switching from Windows to it, then you need to make it a shit-ton more accessible.
If that means having a virtual assistant who will patiently walk people through the arcane commands required to make scripts to configure WLANs and whatever other required bash commands necessary to get things done...
Not to mention diagnose graphics or whatever problems that they're having and solve them without having spend days weeks or months without being able to use their system...
Then open up your minds a little bit to the idea that AI may assist you in getting there.
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That's the (vomit-inducing) beauty of it: capitalist pigs made something useful to you that is build on poor people's work, makes these people jobless, burns the planet and the rich (probably fascist) white dudes even richer (you're also paying woth your sweet, sweet data, which is another plus in their book). So its nice for you and bad in about all other aspects.
Keep making the product better. Eventually they won't be needed. It's much closer than it was back when I was dual-booting in 2009.
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Yep. But you do understand a lot of us don't want to be students of Linux. We just want to do things we want to do. Without having to dig through forums and manual pages.
If you want a culture where your niche operating system is dominated by people who read through forums and manual pages to find the needle in the haystack for the problem they're trying to solve, then continue with the mindset that downvotes something that tries to help people who are novices switch to your system.
BUT If you want a system that is opened up to people switching from Windows to it, then you need to make it a shit-ton more accessible.
If that means having a virtual assistant who will patiently walk people through the arcane commands required to make scripts to configure WLANs and whatever other required bash commands necessary to get things done...
Not to mention diagnose graphics or whatever problems that they're having and solve them without having spend days weeks or months without being able to use their system...
Then open up your minds a little bit to the idea that AI may assist you in getting there.
Back in my much older days, people used newsgroups/email/ and before that, magazines to work out how to use windows.
You guys that grew up with the windows' dominance, forget all you actually had to learn. You think of windows like riding a bike. Not because of windows design. But because you have been doing it all your life and learned the stuff when you were freshly minded and quick to learn.
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Back in my much older days, people used newsgroups/email/ and before that, magazines to work out how to use windows.
You guys that grew up with the windows' dominance, forget all you actually had to learn. You think of windows like riding a bike. Not because of windows design. But because you have been doing it all your life and learned the stuff when you were freshly minded and quick to learn.
My first computer was an Atari 520ST with GEM operating system. Are you older than that?
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Yep. But you do understand a lot of us don't want to be students of Linux. We just want to do things we want to do. Without having to dig through forums and manual pages.
If you want a culture where your niche operating system is dominated by people who read through forums and manual pages to find the needle in the haystack for the problem they're trying to solve, then continue with the mindset that downvotes something that tries to help people who are novices switch to your system.
BUT If you want a system that is opened up to people switching from Windows to it, then you need to make it a shit-ton more accessible.
If that means having a virtual assistant who will patiently walk people through the arcane commands required to make scripts to configure WLANs and whatever other required bash commands necessary to get things done...
Not to mention diagnose graphics or whatever problems that they're having and solve them without having spend days weeks or months without being able to use their system...
Then open up your minds a little bit to the idea that AI may assist you in getting there.
I agree with the general idea of what you're saying, but it's a slippery slope.
Most people I know personally would never take the effort to learn anything past the point of "Ask ChatGPT" when they have a problem. What happens when the model is wrong, or simply cannot solve the problem? Or maybe they have no network connection and cannot run something suitable locally?
At that level of coddling, then they might not even have the ability to find and open a man page, or edit a config file without a GUI. And that's a problem. It's not even Linux-specific. I went to school with "smart" computer science students who don't even understand file extensions or what a shortcut conceptually is.
What I'm getting at, is there needs to be some kind of balance, or people will just gradually become more useless.
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There's been a lot of configuration going on, and I've got to say that Claude has shown itself to be very useful at troubleshooting. Problems have been resolved, scripts have been written, and I'm now running a cloudflare tunnel to my servers.
This is not a good place to recommend commercial services.
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There's been a lot of configuration going on, and I've got to say that Claude has shown itself to be very useful at troubleshooting. Problems have been resolved, scripts have been written, and I'm now running a cloudflare tunnel to my servers.
Spam, spam, spam
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Yep. But you do understand a lot of us don't want to be students of Linux. We just want to do things we want to do. Without having to dig through forums and manual pages.
If you want a culture where your niche operating system is dominated by people who read through forums and manual pages to find the needle in the haystack for the problem they're trying to solve, then continue with the mindset that downvotes something that tries to help people who are novices switch to your system.
BUT If you want a system that is opened up to people switching from Windows to it, then you need to make it a shit-ton more accessible.
If that means having a virtual assistant who will patiently walk people through the arcane commands required to make scripts to configure WLANs and whatever other required bash commands necessary to get things done...
Not to mention diagnose graphics or whatever problems that they're having and solve them without having spend days weeks or months without being able to use their system...
Then open up your minds a little bit to the idea that AI may assist you in getting there.
Maybe if reading documentation is too hard for you Linux isn't the right choice.
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But I think that's my point. It was surprisingly not shitty. In fact it was as though someone who knew Linux was on call 24/7 and willing to sit and walk me through very patiently all the steps necessary to do things.
Yeah, I don't care and never will care how good of a product some fucking capitalist techpig has created. I am that kind of a person who feels nauseous when confronted with AI-slop on the internet, like on youtube or something. Just now I uninstalled Firefox and removed my mozilla account because it seemed to me that they are going to turn completely fascist (considering how they force AI and other capitalist shit on you) any moment now.
So yeah, you've outed yourself as either an uninformed or misinformed useful idiot for the capitalists, or a willing bootlicker. I suggest you get up to speed on the goings-on in the world and what you should be doing in order to fight it. Like survival in the woods, how to operate high-calibre firearms, and the means to produce explosives and/or incendiaries. Or, you know, stop complying with what the capitalists tell you to accept - stuff like AI, always online DRM, internet of things...
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Yep. But you do understand a lot of us don't want to be students of Linux. We just want to do things we want to do. Without having to dig through forums and manual pages.
If you want a culture where your niche operating system is dominated by people who read through forums and manual pages to find the needle in the haystack for the problem they're trying to solve, then continue with the mindset that downvotes something that tries to help people who are novices switch to your system.
BUT If you want a system that is opened up to people switching from Windows to it, then you need to make it a shit-ton more accessible.
If that means having a virtual assistant who will patiently walk people through the arcane commands required to make scripts to configure WLANs and whatever other required bash commands necessary to get things done...
Not to mention diagnose graphics or whatever problems that they're having and solve them without having spend days weeks or months without being able to use their system...
Then open up your minds a little bit to the idea that AI may assist you in getting there.
Counterpoint, back before the internet started becoming full if AI slop, it was easy to find those a solutions by searching.
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There's been a lot of configuration going on, and I've got to say that Claude has shown itself to be very useful at troubleshooting. Problems have been resolved, scripts have been written, and I'm now running a cloudflare tunnel to my servers.
I for one am glad you found a solution that worked for you
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Spam, spam, spam
Claude can pay me if they want to. So far no paycheck tho.
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I agree with the general idea of what you're saying, but it's a slippery slope.
Most people I know personally would never take the effort to learn anything past the point of "Ask ChatGPT" when they have a problem. What happens when the model is wrong, or simply cannot solve the problem? Or maybe they have no network connection and cannot run something suitable locally?
At that level of coddling, then they might not even have the ability to find and open a man page, or edit a config file without a GUI. And that's a problem. It's not even Linux-specific. I went to school with "smart" computer science students who don't even understand file extensions or what a shortcut conceptually is.
What I'm getting at, is there needs to be some kind of balance, or people will just gradually become more useless.
Then why make GUIs, or software installers, or update managers? Let's keep the people in TOP FORM in case of an outage!
Hey, it's not like I don't agree with you, but actually I found myself learning faster in spite of the help. Having someone guide you through something is very educational, and getting things wrong is (sadly) a method of contributing a LOT of detritus into your brain.
"Let's see, I did this last time, but was that when I fucked up or when I fixed it?" I like it better just learning the right way.
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