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'Admit you're Hamas or we'll send a drone to kill your family'

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  • A [email protected]

    The point is to kill and torture these people. Calling them terrorists is a tried and true tactic.

    They will call him Hamas whether he confesses or not and then say they killed another Hamas terrorist.

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    Why torture though? Just kill him if that's the point.

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      American Dr Mark Perlmutter, who has volunteered in Gaza, says one of his Palestinian colleagues was taken by Israeli occupation forces, had his fingers shattered and was told to confess to being a member of Hamas or have his wife gang raped in front of him.

      Soldiers 'crushed' his fingers, Perlmutter explains, adding that they also threatened to 'send a drone to your bedroom window and incinerate your children.' The doctor did not confess and spent 11 months being tortured in Israeli detention.

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      Data you get from people by using torture is automatically invalid.
      When are we finally going to consider this the war crime it is?

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        These days feel like an 'Are we the baddies?' moment for the US

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        Always have been. Hitler said himself he was inspired by the American way of treating people of colour.

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          Why torture though? Just kill him if that's the point.

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          Because they're sadistic fucks

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            If you refuse to tell us your Hamas, we'll be forced to murder your family.

            If you tell us your Hamas, we'll be obligated to murder your family.

            Totally different scenarios.

            Genociders gonna genocide.

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            Boy. Im so happy that religious nut bags are using my tax dollars to kill children. /s

            Honestly, if there is a hell. A lot of the American Christians are going to burn in it.

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            • V [email protected]

              Why torture though? Just kill him if that's the point.

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              Cruelty is the point

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                Because it’s a genocide.

                If he confesses they’re justified because “he was totally hamas” if he holds out they’re justified because “he’s a highly trained hamas agent”.

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                Anyone who runs...

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                  American Dr Mark Perlmutter, who has volunteered in Gaza, says one of his Palestinian colleagues was taken by Israeli occupation forces, had his fingers shattered and was told to confess to being a member of Hamas or have his wife gang raped in front of him.

                  Soldiers 'crushed' his fingers, Perlmutter explains, adding that they also threatened to 'send a drone to your bedroom window and incinerate your children.' The doctor did not confess and spent 11 months being tortured in Israeli detention.

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                  I'm always really surprised more people don't post this stuff in conservative dominated spaces.

                  They're not monsters. Aside from the trolls and bots that are paid to try to sway them to be. Also the under 20 year olds that are edge Lords.

                  I think it's legit to get discussions and to challenge their core beliefs honestly. I do it. Some get through, sometimes I get banned. But I'm surprised more people don't go out and do similar

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                    I'm always really surprised more people don't post this stuff in conservative dominated spaces.

                    They're not monsters. Aside from the trolls and bots that are paid to try to sway them to be. Also the under 20 year olds that are edge Lords.

                    I think it's legit to get discussions and to challenge their core beliefs honestly. I do it. Some get through, sometimes I get banned. But I'm surprised more people don't go out and do similar

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                    Most moderators of conservative spaces actively remove this type of news. If you manage to find a conservative space allowing this kind of stuff by all means do post it there.

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                      Most moderators of conservative spaces actively remove this type of news. If you manage to find a conservative space allowing this kind of stuff by all means do post it there.

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                      I see your comment here, have you considered posting your articles on [email protected] as well?

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                        Data you get from people by using torture is automatically invalid.
                        When are we finally going to consider this the war crime it is?

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                        This only applies in countries where the have a rule of law. Those countries usually don't torture.

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                          This only applies in countries where the have a rule of law. Those countries usually don't torture.

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                          How is that definition useful? The USA and Israel both torture and have plenty of laws.

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                            Boy. Im so happy that religious nut bags are using my tax dollars to kill children. /s

                            Honestly, if there is a hell. A lot of the American Christians are going to burn in it.

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                            There isn't. The only hell they'll ever see is the one we create.

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                            • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                              How is that definition useful? The USA and Israel both torture and have plenty of laws.

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                              "rule of law"

                              They both ignore the law as they please. Be rich, white and you can do whatever you want.

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                                I'm always really surprised more people don't post this stuff in conservative dominated spaces.

                                They're not monsters. Aside from the trolls and bots that are paid to try to sway them to be. Also the under 20 year olds that are edge Lords.

                                I think it's legit to get discussions and to challenge their core beliefs honestly. I do it. Some get through, sometimes I get banned. But I'm surprised more people don't go out and do similar

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                                Have you tried? Your fantasy depiction of unfortunate misguided Nazis does not meet up with reality.

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                                  Why torture though? Just kill him if that's the point.

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                                  Torture is for the pleasure of the torturer (and possibly those ordering it). As a secondary impact, it may terrorize a populace. It serves no other purpose.

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                                    There isn't. The only hell they'll ever see is the one we create.

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                                    "There's no such thing as hell, but you can make it if you try."

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                                      American Dr Mark Perlmutter, who has volunteered in Gaza, says one of his Palestinian colleagues was taken by Israeli occupation forces, had his fingers shattered and was told to confess to being a member of Hamas or have his wife gang raped in front of him.

                                      Soldiers 'crushed' his fingers, Perlmutter explains, adding that they also threatened to 'send a drone to your bedroom window and incinerate your children.' The doctor did not confess and spent 11 months being tortured in Israeli detention.

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                                      This is yet another one of many examples that affirms the correct answer to "does israel have a right to exist?" is no. No nation has an inherent right to exist, but certainly a nation as horrible as israel should not exist for many reasons, including morally, just like how nazi germany has no right to exist.

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                                      • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                        This is yet another one of many examples that affirms the correct answer to "does israel have a right to exist?" is no. No nation has an inherent right to exist, but certainly a nation as horrible as israel should not exist for many reasons, including morally, just like how nazi germany has no right to exist.

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                                        Even the allies didn't deny Germany had a right to exist just its then leadership and most individually culpable

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                                          This is yet another one of many examples that affirms the correct answer to "does israel have a right to exist?" is no. No nation has an inherent right to exist, but certainly a nation as horrible as israel should not exist for many reasons, including morally, just like how nazi germany has no right to exist.

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                                          I think you’re getting into dangerous territory with that thinking. People are not a monolith, even when an outspoken and visible portion of the population are monsters. Secondly, you say “Nazi germany has no right to exist,” but Germany does. Painting with that broad a brush and speaking in such absolutes opens the door to horrible acts. Because the zionists speak the exact same way about Palestine. That’s where that thinking and language can lead you.

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