Putin launches largest military draft in years despite ceasefire talks
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
"Mediated" talks
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
One of the reasons russia could invade ukraine is because they have an army of conscripts. Rulers and politicians use people as their paws. Be wary of any ruler or government drafting people by force even when their claim is "defense", not being drafted by force does not limit the ability of individuals to defend themself.
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More meat for the meat grinder. And unlike Ukrainians Russia does have a choice to stop the war - all they need to do is stop and leave.
Any loss of life on Russia's side is completely optional, and due to Putin's whims. Not that it matters to the vultures surrounding Ukraine.
Ukrainians die to protect their homeland against invasion. Russians die for needless oligarchic aspirations of dominion of the elite. It’s not the same thing for either side, as many like to make it seem as if Ukraine has any responsibility in the matter.
I think what some people are arguing about is that ukraine government practices much resemble these of the russian government. Ukraine government is also drafting people by force and arresting any male between 18-60 who tries to leave the border. Many people died as a result trying to flee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis#Border_crossings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhC8WREVKM
Drafting people by force is a needless authoritarian practice in any scenario.
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One of the reasons russia could invade ukraine is because they have an army of conscripts. Rulers and politicians use people as their paws. Be wary of any ruler or government drafting people by force even when their claim is "defense", not being drafted by force does not limit the ability of individuals to defend themself.
When that population crashes and burns over the next 50 years it's gonna be a hell of a thing to hear about
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They're Russian, stop trying to bring reason into it.
I'm sure they genuinely think that now the US will attack Europe and they can invade on 2 fronts.
Russians are just insane morons.
They’re Russian, stop trying to bring reason into it.
Oh, absolutely. However, insanity can help only that much with invasion.
I’m sure they genuinely think that now the US will attack Europe and they can invade on 2 fronts.
Red, white and bluelandia wants a word with you. Do you really think it's impossible? At this point I'm not that sure anymore.
Russians are just insane morons.
I'd disagree to some extent. Call Putin what you want (and rightly so), but he is not a moron (as opposite to the Orange one).
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This isn't for Ukraine.
This is for Europe.
I predict an uptick of Rafale, EF2000, and JAS-39 sales in Europe, and that the models offered will be wired for nuclear delivery should the need arise.
I feel awful that our government is breaking bad over on this side of the pond… but at the same time, I think open violent revolt and civil war would be a believable scenario if orangeboi actually tries to Molotov-Ribbentrop all of fucking Europe with Putin.
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ooooo those French!
Vive la Republique
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I predict an uptick of Rafale, EF2000, and JAS-39 sales in Europe, and that the models offered will be wired for nuclear delivery should the need arise.
I feel awful that our government is breaking bad over on this side of the pond… but at the same time, I think open violent revolt and civil war would be a believable scenario if orangeboi actually tries to Molotov-Ribbentrop all of fucking Europe with Putin.
He 100% will or has done that, remember the secret protocol was secret.
The other shoe always drops later.
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They’re Russian, stop trying to bring reason into it.
Oh, absolutely. However, insanity can help only that much with invasion.
I’m sure they genuinely think that now the US will attack Europe and they can invade on 2 fronts.
Red, white and bluelandia wants a word with you. Do you really think it's impossible? At this point I'm not that sure anymore.
Russians are just insane morons.
I'd disagree to some extent. Call Putin what you want (and rightly so), but he is not a moron (as opposite to the Orange one).
The common people is that or just don't have a choice.Putin was brilliant, his moves until 2008 were a perfection of geopolitical chess.
After that he completely lost the plot, his terror at the rise of China completely broke his mind, he felt he had to show strength less Russia become a vassal state and resource depot for the CPC.
And he wasn't wrong, but his response was stupid, and relied on Europe continuing to follow Merkel's 'nice doggy' policies.
Now he thinks he can act anyway, because his sponsored right-wing groups will cause enough dissent that nobody will stop him from taking the baltics.
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Ukrainians die to protect their homeland against invasion. Russians die for needless oligarchic aspirations of dominion of the elite. It’s not the same thing for either side, as many like to make it seem as if Ukraine has any responsibility in the matter.
I think what some people are arguing about is that ukraine government practices much resemble these of the russian government. Ukraine government is also drafting people by force and arresting any male between 18-60 who tries to leave the border. Many people died as a result trying to flee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis#Border_crossings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhC8WREVKM
Drafting people by force is a needless authoritarian practice in any scenario.
This is how it works when your country has war on it's land, it doesn't matter what system of government you have.
I would expect any European country to react the same with war on their land.
War is hell on earth
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Ukrainians die to protect their homeland against invasion. Russians die for needless oligarchic aspirations of dominion of the elite. It’s not the same thing for either side, as many like to make it seem as if Ukraine has any responsibility in the matter.
I think what some people are arguing about is that ukraine government practices much resemble these of the russian government. Ukraine government is also drafting people by force and arresting any male between 18-60 who tries to leave the border. Many people died as a result trying to flee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis#Border_crossings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXhC8WREVKM
Drafting people by force is a needless authoritarian practice in any scenario.
Any numbers on that last claim? Maybe compare it to number of people who already fled, and number of civilians who died from russian rockets.
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I hear Donald Trump is good at polishing Russian equipment.
I've heard that as well.
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This is how it works when your country has war on it's land, it doesn't matter what system of government you have.
I would expect any European country to react the same with war on their land.
War is hell on earth
Sweden, long known for being neutral (up until joining NATO last year) and peaceful, can by law compel every single swedish citizen between the ages of 16 and 70 to serve during wartime. If it is deemed necessary, even non-citizens in Sweden can be included in this.
Exactly as you state, almost every sovereign country on the planet likely has some version of this.
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
HitlerPig is watching and learning. When he launches his wars, they will definitely be accompanied by a draft.
I will state this unequivocally: I will NEVER allow my son to be drafted into a MAGA War of Economic Oppprtunity. And if they somehow grab him and press him into military slavery, I will have nothing left to lose, and I will become a very dangerous individual to my son's slavemasters. And I won't be alone.
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Between Zelensky publicly stating Putin has health issues and will die soon, and the recent incident with Putin’s limousine, he may not have a whole lot longer in any event. One can only hope…
Putin's limo explosion got very little exposure in the American media. They don't want anyone getting any big ideas about a rising resistance.
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
smart guy, knows now usa will not help, unless you have rare minerals so countries without minerals are in danger. And regarding peace I do not think he is interested in peace, he wants young men dying so he can also accept his own inevitable death eventually.
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
And the Russian brain drain continues as well
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Any numbers on that last claim? Maybe compare it to number of people who already fled, and number of civilians who died from russian rockets.
the wikipedia link i posted
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This is how it works when your country has war on it's land, it doesn't matter what system of government you have.
I would expect any European country to react the same with war on their land.
War is hell on earth
This is how it works when your country has war on it’s land
This is how you are told it works when your country has war on it's land.
I would expect any European country to react the same with war on their land.
I would expect the same, most of them are ruled by corrupted politicians with blood on their hands
War is hell on earth
I agree, drafting people by force brings you closer to hell.
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Summary
Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.
The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.
Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.
I'm not judging but... Does he have lipstick on that picture?
